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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What makes people think anyone wants to hear the lord's prayer, especially if they weren't asked about it first?

    Who really cares?
    I think that was the point. He was seemingly hinting at the fact some people were condemning/insulting/belittling the notion of a Kid using his graduation speech to talk about something important to him and his life, but cheering for this guy doing it. The ironic thing of it is that, while true that some are doing that, he fails to realize that the same thing was happening in reverse as well.

    In both instances, in terms of hte content, I don't really care. They did the work to get the oppertunity, they can talk about whatever they want in my mind.

    I also want someone now to read the Lords Prayer and THEN come out as gay then drop the mic and walk off stage.

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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You mean like the kid who recited the Lord's Prayer? Of course, he wasn't just an attention whore. He was also called a hypocrite and a douchebag.

    I'll be watching this thread with interest.
    Kinda like the Tim Tebow and Jason Collins stuff where many people had problems with Tim displaying his faith but herald Collins as some kind of a hero for coming out as gay. Double standards are fun, especially when one side is vehement in their disapproval while heralding a fairly identical action from an opposing view point as a heroic.

    My stance here is the same as the other case with a Christian kid sharing the Lord's prayer. People have free speech, this kid can come out as gay publicly and that's fine. He's open to praise and he's also open to criticism just like anyone else.

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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Interestingly enough, many people on this thread feel it was the Valedictorian's right to say whatever they want, that they earned that right.

    I may be in error, but I recall VOTING for our Valedictorian, as a representative of our class... the pool, of course, had to be a high honors students (we had several).

    I feel that no matter what speech was spoken, due respect should have been given, be it the Lord's Prayer or a Coming Out speech. After all, if one is going to allow one, then they must allow the other.
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I also want someone now to read the Lords Prayer and THEN come out as gay then drop the mic and walk off stage.
    I'd love to see some flaming gay black dude get up there, rip open his robe to reveal a wife beater with a rebel flag on it, give the Nazi salute, yell "Allah Akbar...peace out bitches", throw a basket full of puppies into the crowd and skip off the stage.
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Interestingly enough, many people on this thread feel it was the Valedictorian's right to say whatever they want, that they earned that right.

    I may be in error, but I recall VOTING for our Valedictorian, as a representative of our class... the pool, of course, had to be a high honors students (we had several).

    I feel that no matter what speech was spoken, due respect should have been given, be it the Lord's Prayer or a Coming Out speech. After all, if one is going to allow one, then they must allow the other.
    At my HS, the valedictorian was the kid with the highest overall cumulative GPA (9-12). I was that kid and I remember being pissed off that I was "forced" to give a speech. I started my speech with the "space, the final frontier" opening
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'd love to see some flaming gay black dude get up there, rip open his robe to reveal a wife beater with a rebel flag on it, give the Nazi salute, yell "Allah Akbar...peace out bitches", throw a basket full of puppies into the crowd and skip off the stage.
    Just give it time.

    Meanwhile, what might have been really brave, not to mention respectful, was this kid cluing in his folks before his speech to the whole darned demi-monde.

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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    At my HS, the valedictorian was the kid with the highest overall cumulative GPA (9-12). I was that kid and I remember being pissed off that I was "forced" to give a speech. I started my speech with the "space, the final frontier" opening
    Today, unfortunately, selecting by that method would be considered discriminatory for those who did not achieve the highest GPA. That may be why there were 10 Valedictorians as someone mentioned earlier in this thread.

    I can get a visual on the opening... please tell me you wore the space suit........
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Today, unfortunately, selecting by that method would be considered discriminatory for those who did not achieve the highest GPA. That may be why there were 10 Valedictorians as someone mentioned earlier in this thread.

    I can get a visual on the opening... please tell me you wore the space suit........
    my two best friends and I were called "those Star Trek guys" all through HS. All 3 of us wore replica uniforms under our robes I ended my speech with... "Live Long and Prosper"
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    my two best friends and I were called "those Star Trek guys" all through HS. All 3 of us wore replica uniforms under our robes I ended my speech with... "Live Long and Prosper"
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Back in the late 70's, it was still obvious, and yes, she did deal with it.
    Well, this was before the Oprah-fication of the national dialogue where people now feel the need to spill their guts about personal details of their lives in public.

    Back then, it was about being outstanding. Now, it's about standing out.
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