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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    What makes people think anyone wants to hear about their sexual preferance, especially if they weren't asked about it in the first place?
    These perverts wear it like a badge of honor.

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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Did you read it? He took his own personal experience and related it to the experience any student may face in the future.
    I read it. Doesn't change what I think, however.

    My high school graduation Valedictorian was a black female in a predominately white graduating class . Not one part of her speech made any mention of race. It was all about WE and US.
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why should his folks rot? Apparently they've been very supportive of him....



    KTEM EXCLUSIVE: Belton High School Student Comes Out To Family, Friends During Graduation Speech
    He had been referring to Jonathan Allen, America's Got Talent, whose parents threw him out when he told them he was gay.

    As for the young Belton student, as much courage as I know it took, and as supportive as I am for the plight of all in the LBGT community, a graduation ceremony is not the appropriate venue for "coming out" to a captive audience who is there to celebrate a graduation, not hear religious recitation nor sexuality confessions.

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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm not going to say that or anything like it, only that taking your stand--prayer, coming out, whatever, during such a speech is self-aggrandizing and not appropriate to the moment.
    It sounds more like they didn't treated him very well and got what they deserved.

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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

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    Self-interest is the motivation behind most actions...
    So I'm told...

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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    While I have no issue with someone saying what they want, nor have a problem with anybody being gay.

    But isn't the Valedictorian's speech suppose to be about what the STUDENTS as a whole have accomplished, and the direction they are headed? That's the way I remember it.
    Sure, but every valedictorian speech I have ever heard was also interspersed with comments about the valedictorian's own journey.

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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    I read it. Doesn't change what I think, however.

    My high school graduation Valedictorian was a black female in a predominately white graduating class . Not one part of her speech made any mention of race. It was all about WE and US.
    Good for her. My high school Valedictorian was a gay guy who never mentioned he was gay but advocated appreciating what life had to offer. What is your point?
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Good for her. My high school Valedictorian was a gay guy who never mentioned he was gay but advocated appreciating what life had to offer. What is your point?
    That a speech such as this, IMO, wasn't quite the place to say what he did. It seems that he focused more on himself than the students as a whole.
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm not going to say that or anything like it, only that taking your stand--prayer, coming out, whatever, during such a speech is self-aggrandizing and not appropriate to the moment.
    Not appropriate according to whom? There's nothing inherently self-aggrandizing about coming out, or prayer. It's not "oooh look at me I'm gay wheee!!" It takes tremendous courage to do something like this, not knowing what the reaction will be like.
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    Re: Now this is brave Gay Texas teen comes out in graduation speech

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    That a speech such as this, IMO, wasn't quite the place to say what he did. It seems that he focused more on himself than the students as a whole.
    Interesting criticism. Do you have that feeling about all graduation speeches where students try to offer their personal experiences in a way the class can relate to or just when the speaker comes out as gay?
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