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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Democrats don't want it for different reasons (namely they think it's discriminatory against Hispanic Americans and that "Americans don't want that kind of work"). They're wrong, I think, but at least that's an honest argument.

    The Republican argument is dishonest. They really don't want to stop illegal immigration, since it's used by big industries to suppress wages. They just pretend to be against it and do silly things like build fences, as if that can keep people out looking for a better life. Never has, never will. The GOP is counting on illegals getting in so they can be exploited. The rest is just false rhetoric.

    In any case, e-verify is a good policy that honest politicians should support. If they want to change immigration laws, that's another matter. But the hiring of illegals to exploit them and suppress wages for American workers is simply bad news for everybody, but the wealthy industries that profit from it.
    Now see, this was a solid post that made your point without being all snarky. Why cant you contribute like this more often?
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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is my idea.

    Require that in order to get any ID or driver's license you present a birth certificate, green card, or certificate of naturalization and social security card.After that require a state issued ID or driver's license in order to the following-

    -enroll yourself into school
    -enroll your kids into school
    -apply for welfare,food stamps,section 8 housing and any other tax payer assistance for yourself and or your children
    -get a business license,fishing/hunting permit,building permit, license to practice law, food handlers permit, gun license(in states that require a permit to buy a gun),concealed carry permit(in states that require a license to conceal carry) or any other tax payer funded service
    -open a bank account, cash a check, use a credit/debit/pre-paid card, apply for a loan,or wire money.
    -rent,borrow,lease or buy property
    -rent,borrow,lease or buy a motor vehicle.
    -get legal documents for yourself or your children.
    -get utilities
    Great idea!!!!

    Won't work cause you'll be considered racist for bringing it up.

    Wish we could do it though!!!

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    On one hand, it will secure Democrat elections wins for the forseeable future.

    On the other hand, black unemployment will reach 50 percent.

    Careful what you wish for.

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Looking forward to the House rejecting this summarily.
    Well, it's mixed feelings for me. On the one hand, the immigration policy badly needs overhaul. On the other hand, the Republican House rejecting this minor attempt at reform means the Hispanics will continue to vote overwhelmingly for Democratic candidates. The Demographics are going to get you all.
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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    Great idea!!!!

    Won't work cause you'll be considered racist for bringing it up.

    Wish we could do it though!!!
    Since it would apply to everyone it would be extremely hard for them to make that claim.
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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, it's mixed feelings for me. On the one hand, the immigration policy badly needs overhaul. On the other hand, the Republican House rejecting this minor attempt at reform means the Hispanics will continue to vote overwhelmingly for Democratic candidates. The Demographics are going to get you all.
    You call granting legal status to 12-20 million plus illegals while at the same encouraging who knows how many more people to sneak across this border while this thing is being proposed a minor attempt?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Since it would apply to everyone it would be extremely hard for them to make that claim.
    I agree with you but since we can't make em show ID to vote
    I'm afraid the same will happen with this.

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You call granting legal status to 12-20 million plus illegals while at the same encouraging who knows how many more people to sneak across this border while this thing is being proposed a minor attempt?
    Well, what's your alternative - rounding them all up, loading them in boxcars, and shipping them off to concentration camps? Wasn't that tried in Europe during the last century?
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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

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    Read more @: [/FONT][/COLOR][/B]In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com

    I hope this bill moves past the debate process and passes onto the house. Its not perfect but its a step forward in dealing with our seriously flawed immigration policies that we have today.
    It's a very bad step.
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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The tea party occupation forces in the House will kill it. They're freaks with an electoral death wish
    You bragging or complaining?
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