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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The federal government should require e-verify. But of course the whole states' rights argument has poisoned that well. Not to mention the fact that conservatives don't really want it, since it will result in possible criminal prosecutions of CEOs in some of the biggest industries, including agribusiness, hospitality and meat packing. Conservatives and their constituents make big money off exploiting illegal workers and have done so for a long time. With e-verify, those industries would actually have to pay market wages.
    As much as I hate to admit it, you're spot on on this issue. Though to be fair, Democrats don't really want it either, as demonstrated by California's complete prohibition of employers using it.

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's been a crime to employ illegal aliens for some time now and the Clinton, Bush and Obama administration just didn't refuse to enforce our immigration laws but refused to prosecute those who hired illegal aliens.

    In 1986 the American people were told that if we reward illegal aliens amnesty, that it would never be repeated. That our borders would be secured and all of our nations immigration laws would be enforced in the interior. We were lied too.

    Since then, Congress has snuck through six more amnesties with the same promises. Again we were lied too.

    I don't know about you, but I've been lied too seven times.

    This current bill is 800 pages long with no securing of the borders and no enforcement of the laws. It just 800 pages explaining that 20 million criminals will be legalized and given citizenship as an award for breaking our laws.

    JUST ANOTHER LIE !
    How wrong you are....the Obama admin has prosecuted FAR MORE corps for employing illegals than bush, who prosecuted very few. And the republicans have zero interest in prosecuting them. To my mind, they are far more culpable than the disparate people who cross the border hoping for a better life.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    That's another issue entirely. We need to be, but politics gets in the way of that.
    There's really nothing that can be done about that.

    What can be addressed is the handouts given to illegals and meal ticket children for illegals.

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's been a crime to employ illegal aliens for some time now and the Clinton, Bush and Obama administration just didn't refuse to enforce our immigration laws but refused to prosecute those who hired illegal aliens.

    In 1986 the American people were told that if we reward illegal aliens amnesty, that it would never be repeated. That our borders would be secured and all of our nations immigration laws would be enforced in the interior. We were lied too.

    Since then, Congress has snuck through six more amnesties with the same promises. Again we were lied too.

    I don't know about you, but I've been lied too seven times.

    This current bill is 800 pages long with no securing of the borders and no enforcement of the laws. It just 800 pages explaining that 20 million criminals will be legalized and given citizenship as an award for breaking our laws.

    JUST ANOTHER LIE !
    How wrong you are....the Obama admin has prosecuted FAR MORE corps for employing illegals than bush, who prosecuted very few. And the republicans have zero interest in prosecuting them. To my mind, they are far more culpable than the desparate people who cross the border hoping for a better life.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's been a crime to employ illegal aliens for some time now and the Clinton, Bush and Obama administration just didn't refuse to enforce our immigration laws but refused to prosecute those who hired illegal aliens.

    In 1986 the American people were told that if we reward illegal aliens amnesty, that it would never be repeated. That our borders would be secured and all of our nations immigration laws would be enforced in the interior. We were lied too.

    Since then, Congress has snuck through six more amnesties with the same promises. Again we were lied too.

    I don't know about you, but I've been lied too seven times.

    This current bill is 800 pages long with no securing of the borders and no enforcement of the laws. It just 800 pages explaining that 20 million criminals will be legalized and given citizenship as an award for breaking our laws.

    JUST ANOTHER LIE !
    How wrong you are....the Obama admin has prosecuted FAR MORE corps for employing illegals than bush, who prosecuted very few. And the republicans have zero interest in prosecuting them. To my mind, they are far more culpable than the desperate people who cross the border hoping for a better life.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    As much as I hate to admit it, you're spot on on this issue. Though to be fair, Democrats don't really want it either, as demonstrated by California's complete prohibition of employers using it.
    Democrats don't want it for different reasons (namely they think it's discriminatory against Hispanic Americans and that "Americans don't want that kind of work"). They're wrong, I think, but at least that's an honest argument.

    The Republican argument is dishonest. They really don't want to stop illegal immigration, since it's used by big industries to suppress wages. They just pretend to be against it and do silly things like build fences, as if that can keep people out looking for a better life. Never has, never will. The GOP is counting on illegals getting in so they can be exploited. The rest is just false rhetoric.

    In any case, e-verify is a good policy that honest politicians should support. If they want to change immigration laws, that's another matter. But the hiring of illegals to exploit them and suppress wages for American workers is simply bad news for everybody, but the wealthy industries that profit from it.

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    By the way, this issue will fade in the future since Mexico now has a self-sustaining middle class. We'll never see again the time when millions of workers were fleeing Mexico to come to America. Mexico's economy is strong enough so that they don't have to, not in those numbers.
    Mexico accomplished their mission, they exported all of their uneducated and unskilled losers to America.

    Now they are our problem.

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    How wrong you are....the Obama admin has prosecuted FAR MORE corps for employing illegals than bush, who prosecuted very few. And the republicans have zero interest in prosecuting them. To my mind, they are far more culpable than the disparate people who cross the border hoping for a better life.
    You have been lied too.

    The Obama administration has been busted cooking the numbers more than a few times.

    How can you believe any thing that the current administration says. They have a well established record as liars. That's right, it's all about a video on You Tube.

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    How wrong you are....the Obama admin has prosecuted FAR MORE corps for employing illegals than bush, who prosecuted very few. And the republicans have zero interest in prosecuting them. To my mind, they are far more culpable than the desparate people who cross the border hoping for a better life.
    See post #58.

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    Re: In 84-15 vote, Senate moves forward on immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    How wrong you are....the Obama admin has prosecuted FAR MORE corps for employing illegals than bush, who prosecuted very few. And the republicans have zero interest in prosecuting them. To my mind, they are far more culpable than the desperate people who cross the border hoping for a better life.
    Dittos again, see post #58.

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