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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Fairly well, all things considered. Would have been better off I suppose if State hadn't gotten as involved as it did. Good After Action Review point for next time.
    except State was involved from the start.. it was Amb. Stevens driving force behind use of force.
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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: [/FONT][/COLOR]White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels | JPost | Israel News

    Although i suspect that we may already be arming the rebels covertly, i do hope we stay out of this conflict all together with no aid for either side, but only going to civilians.
    I don't think Putin would be a happy camper.

    Obama waited to long.

    What I'm hearing, the Russians are very likely to put combat troops in Syria wearing blue helmets and will call themselves "peace keepers." I think they did something like that a while back in Georgia.

    As we have seen over the past 4 years and 5 months, Obama isn't capable of making important quick serious decisions with in hours but it takes him months. Because of Obama's failed foreign policies in the Middle East, the Middle East is a basket case today. America is no longer the big boy on the block to fear in the Middle East. America is no longer a super power.

    What we will likely see in four or six years from now, is one big Muslim Shia - Sunni civil war war from the northern Israeli borders to the Iranian border. Thanks Obama.

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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    We're in it to A) make good on the US guarantee that use of WMD against civilian populaces has consequences and B) reduce Iran.
    Seriously? You mean when the US ignored Iraq using chemical weapons in 1991? I can show you a video of Syrian rebels making and testing chemical weapons on rabbits.. You probably have to sign in to Youtube to see it. So don't jump the gun because nobody has a clue who did what in Syria yet.


    If it's the US point to reduce Iran.. you don't overthrow Syria. You let the civil war go on tying up Iranian resources and you attack Iran in different ways (trade, cyber and such).
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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
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    What I'm hearing, the Russians are very likely to put combat troops in Syria wearing blue helmets and will call themselves "peace keepers." I think they did something like that a while back in Georgia.
    Uhhh source????
    And if your talkign about the Golan Heights that was rejected by the UN

    As we have seen over the past 4 years and 5 months, Obama isn't capable of making important quick serious decisions with in hours but it takes him months. Because of Obama's failed foreign policies in the Middle East, the Middle East is a basket case today. America is no longer the big boy on the block to fear in the Middle East. America is no longer a super power.

    What we will likely see in four or six years from now, is one big Muslim Shia - Sunni civil war war from the northern Israeli borders to the Iranian border. Thanks Obama.
    So what should have he dont differently? I hear this so often but i never get an answer..


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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Russia would get pissed off.
    and that's bad because.......


    Russia has been selling Syria portions of it's IADS network. Let's take advantage of this opportunity to test our weaponeering.

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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Why can't we simply do what we did in Libya, and start bombing the regime? We don't need to provide particularly complex or dangerous weapon systems to the rebels.
    Heya CW. For one it would be an act of war. 2. The Syrians are far more capable with their Military effectiveness than what Libya was and their Air defenses more extensive.

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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and that's bad because.......

    Russia has been selling Syria portions of it's IADS network. Let's take advantage of this opportunity to test our weaponeering.
    Russia wants a bit more time with one of its best customers. While the West supplying rebels will increase demand for Russian arms, a flat-out spanking by NATO would probably kill the addict before Russia gets right.

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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Seriously? You mean when the US ignored Iraq using chemical weapons in 1991?
    Yup. However, we didnt' announce to the world that we would consider that a redline. We did so with Assad. The most important part of a threat is being able to back it up.

    I can show you a video of Syrian rebels making and testing chemical weapons on rabbits..
    Yup. Aren't we glad that nobody listened to CPWILL's advice oh, say, about 15 months ago, and went ahead and either destroyed or secured Syria's WMD stores? Hooray, now that country is becoming a failed state ruled by a hodgepodge of ethnic and religiously affiliated militias, international terrorist groups, and remnants of abusive state military forces, and chemical weapons are rattling around like a handful of blasting caps in an empty can of gas fumes .

    If it's the US point to reduce Iran.. you don't overthrow Syria. You let the civil war go on tying up Iranian resources and you attack Iran in different ways (trade, cyber and such).
    Assad is in danger of winning this fight. that's why you see this thread and the reassessment that sparked it.

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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya CW. For one it would be an act of war
    Doesn't seem to have stopped us in Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia.....

    . 2. The Syrians are far more capable with their Military effectiveness than what Libya was and their Air defenses more extensive.
    yeah?

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    Re: White House reassesses policy on arming Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I don't think Putin would be a happy camper.

    Obama waited to long.

    What I'm hearing, the Russians are very likely to put combat troops in Syria wearing blue helmets and will call themselves "peace keepers." I think they did something like that a while back in Georgia.

    As we have seen over the past 4 years and 5 months, Obama isn't capable of making important quick serious decisions with in hours but it takes him months. Because of Obama's failed foreign policies in the Middle East, the Middle East is a basket case today. America is no longer the big boy on the block to fear in the Middle East. America is no longer a super power.

    What we will likely see in four or six years from now, is one big Muslim Shia - Sunni civil war war from the northern Israeli borders to the Iranian border. Thanks Obama.
    I don't know why it matters to anyone who doesn't live there. Let 'em sort it out among themselves. There's no way to impose a lasting peace- hell, there's probably no lasting peace possible, so just let the cage match happen and deal with whoever comes out on top. One looks pretty much like the others anyway.

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