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Bilderberg 2013: Secret meeting opens press office for 1st time

There are, as you pointed out, meetings all the time. But surely you can grasp the elevated importance of the Bilderberg meeting. Now, whether or not it should be private, I don't see why it would need to be private if their discussions were solely open-source material. That does not make much sense. But obviously there is nothing I can do about it, but a summary or transcript (if they were feeling transparent) would be nice.

So you're saying that any meeting that is of significant importance, according to you, should be public?
 
It's just a harmless little get together where world leaders can let down their hair and discuss whirled peas.

My guess is that the topics this year are terrorism, the EU's economy, and "how are we going to unload all these US bonds?"
 
So you're saying that any meeting that is of significant importance, according to you, should be public?

Again, I don't see why it would need to be private if their discussions were solely open-source material.
 
Again, I don't see why it would need to be private if their discussions were solely open-source material.

...You didn't really answer the question there.

If the executives of Apple, Microsoft, Dell, Cisco, and Qualcomm held a two day meeting, it would certainly be of significant importance, in my mind at least. Would you say that what they talked about must be disclosed to the public? They can't have a private meeting?
 
...You didn't really answer the question there.

If the executives of Apple, Microsoft, Dell, Cisco, and Qualcomm held a two day meeting, it would certainly be of significant importance, in my mind at least. Would you say that what they talked about must be disclosed to the public? They can't have a private meeting?

They can, and they will. But you can bet on the media getting wind of it, though.
 
They can, and they will.

Yes, they can. And yes, they will. Do you think they should be allowed to have private meetings, though?

Again: are you saying that any meeting that is of significant importance, according to you, should be public?
 
Yes, they can. And yes, they will. Do you think they should be allowed to have private meetings, though?

Again: are you saying that any meeting that is of significant importance, according to you, should be public?

In my mind, the paradigm changes when heads of state/lawmakers are involved. If the top five Internet giants want a private meeting, that is different to me. But as soon as lawmakers and heads of state get involved, the dynamic changes entirely because of the power they yield over us. And again, going back, if the Bilderberg meeting is nothing but open-source, then the secrecy should be reduced.
 
In my mind, the paradigm changes when heads of state/lawmakers are involved.

Okay.

If the top five Internet giants want a private meeting, that is different to me. But as soon as lawmakers and heads of state get involved, the dynamic changes entirely because of the power they yield over us.

Those internet giants hold significant sway, too, but okay. But why would it matter unless bargains were struck, which do become public record?

And again, going back, if the Bilderberg meeting is nothing but open-source, then the secrecy should be reduced.

You keep saying that, but there's nothing behind it other than you just saying it. I mean, you could say the same thing about our hypothetical internet meeting. But that doesn't make it true.
 
Yes, the trillionaires are protecting their big money via government collusion. And they sacrifice babies. You know this because you're not invited.

Great.


Those would be your words, not mine. Where do they get the babies you're talking about?
 
I found a transcript/schedule!


10am - Syria
11am - Iraq
12pm - Sacrificing babies
1pm - The EU and the Euro
2pm - Turkey
3pm - US economics
4pm - Figure out how to prevent Jango from exposing us
5pm - Israel/Palestine issues
6pm - Snake worship
7pm - Supper


Why do you waste so much time defending something that you know so little about? I do need to know more about that snake worship.
are these all International conspiracies or filaments of a lack of imagination?
 
The Bilderberg group being secret is very important. People of all walks of life, politicians, business leaders and so on can talk freely, no risk of being of being ratted out to the press or to others. Complete secrecy is the recipe that makes this Bilderberg Group work.
 
The Bilderberg group being secret is very important. People of all walks of life, politicians, business leaders and so on can talk freely, no risk of being of being ratted out to the press or to others. Complete secrecy is the recipe that makes this Bilderberg Group work.

I've never heard of any peasants, farmers, dirt bags or peons being invited for their viewpoint, ergo "People of all walks of life" is quite a stretch. It represents the view from Big Money.
 
I've never heard of any peasants, farmers, dirt bags or peons being invited for their viewpoint, ergo "People of all walks of life" is quite a stretch. It represents the view from Big Money.

Or it could be called "Big Success".
 
You don't need any expertise. All you need is common sense and an awareness that there is no super special secret information accessible only to the Bilder Group. If you can just accept that, all the conspiracy goes away.

Until last week there was no singular group where the wealthiest, most powerful and most influential people in the world that ever met in secret.

How do you figure that they have no "super-secret" information?

The same logic that told you that these people don't meet in secret? That logic was wrong, so how are you so certain that you are right??

The only information I've seen that they have discussed are documents uncovered / released from previous meetings. (like the 1950's document they released where they detailed their 50 year plan to create a euro while the world was only coming to accept that Germany was split with a fence.)

I repeat that to say that we don't really know WHAT is being discussed... And the fact that you are trying to shift the goal posts so nobody notices...

First, it was a conspiracy theory that the group exists... Now, that it's doubtless that the group exists, it's a conspiracy theory that there is anything nefarious about the meetings.

Well, coming as a statement f fact from the person that claimed the non-existence of the group, I have a hard time to accept that you are anything but guessing.
 
Really no different than the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos--self important folks gathering for a tax-deductible group holiday.
 
Really no different than the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos--self important folks gathering for a tax-deductible group holiday.

Let's assume this is right...

The real relationship would be much closer to, the people at bilderburg will decided the agenda that will be brought to the table by the influenced parties and act as though those interests are independent when there are multiple "arms" at these "lower" meetings that are operating under the common bilderburg agenda.

It might just be simple old men out on vacation, but they DO DECIDE POLICY. Like when it was Obama vs Hillary for the nod, they both met at bilderburg (that day that obamas reporters were led to a plane while Obama ditched, and Hillary disappeared simultaneously). Except it did not make it into news because bilderburg did not exist... It was within a few days where the decision for Hillary to join obamas cabinet was declared for the world.

Gah... You people are so easy to buy into MSM spin machines...

Are you going to trust the people that until 2 weeks ago that something was fake, or the people that have been fighting for years just to expose this group as real for the world??

Of course, you're going to trust the people that only the other day told you something was real.
 
Let's assume this is right...

The real relationship would be much closer to, the people at bilderburg will decided the agenda that will be brought to the table by the influenced parties and act as though those interests are independent when there are multiple "arms" at these "lower" meetings that are operating under the common bilderburg agenda.

It might just be simple old men out on vacation, but they DO DECIDE POLICY. Like when it was Obama vs Hillary for the nod, they both met at bilderburg (that day that obamas reporters were led to a plane while Obama ditched, and Hillary disappeared simultaneously). Except it did not make it into news because bilderburg did not exist... It was within a few days where the decision for Hillary to join obamas cabinet was declared for the world.

Gah... You people are so easy to buy into MSM spin machines...

Are you going to trust the people that until 2 weeks ago that something was fake, or the people that have been fighting for years just to expose this group as real for the world??

Of course, you're going to trust the people that only the other day told you something was real.

The group hasn't been a secret--they just kept their discussions private. The EU has been in the works since the end of WWII not in secret and became a priority when Germany reunified.
 
I've never heard of any peasants, farmers, dirt bags or peons being invited for their viewpoint, ergo "People of all walks of life" is quite a stretch. It represents the view from Big Money.

Well, usually peasants, farmers, dirt bags and peons usually do not add something to global politics, big business etc. Not that this makes them any less, but for the purpose of the Bilderberg conference they do not add anything to the dynamic (I would assume).
 
Let's assume this is right...

The real relationship would be much closer to, the people at bilderburg will decided the agenda that will be brought to the table by the influenced parties and act as though those interests are independent when there are multiple "arms" at these "lower" meetings that are operating under the common bilderburg agenda.

It might just be simple old men out on vacation, but they DO DECIDE POLICY. Like when it was Obama vs Hillary for the nod, they both met at bilderburg (that day that obamas reporters were led to a plane while Obama ditched, and Hillary disappeared simultaneously). Except it did not make it into news because bilderburg did not exist... It was within a few days where the decision for Hillary to join obamas cabinet was declared for the world.

Gah... You people are so easy to buy into MSM spin machines...

Are you going to trust the people that until 2 weeks ago that something was fake, or the people that have been fighting for years just to expose this group as real for the world??

Of course, you're going to trust the people that only the other day told you something was real.

This is nonsensical. So Obama and Hilary deciding on something and announcing it isn't good enough for you, you need to know it as they talk about it?
 
You have no evidence of anything. Who's guessing?

Ya, I've only been looking into this groups movements for about 10 years, and seeing their decisions come to pass afterwards almost like clockwork...

But I'm not even that knowledgable, but the difference between the both of us is that to you this group has just come into existence, I've been talking about this group for years and have read most of the available documents that have been leaked from the groups meetings.
 
This is nonsensical. So Obama and Hilary deciding on something and announcing it isn't good enough for you, you need to know it as they talk about it?

anyone here old 'nuff to remember JFK's warning about SECRET SOCIETIES?

Just a bit of food for thought....
 
This is nonsensical. So Obama and Hilary deciding on something and announcing it isn't good enough for you, you need to know it as they talk about it?

That's not the point...
 
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