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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    If you are at home, and someone breaks in, you get the hell out and call the police. Any other course of action is just plain stupid.
    You must be crazy!

    So, you allow someone else to come into your home and your reaction is to run? And you ask someone else what color the sky was in their world? I think by running you would be doing a cowardly act, but if that's how you protect what you have worked for, if you have worked, so be it.

    We Texans don't see it that way. I understand that you live in New York, but even with that, you should at least have a little manliness about you.

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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Here's the details that I've heard. They might be accurate or might not be.

    Gilbert found Frago's craigslist ad under "escort services" that advertised 20 minutes for $150. After she arrived at his apartment he gave her the $150. But when he made sexual advances she informed him that the $150 was for her driver (pimp) and that any sexual favors would cost him extra.

    Apparently he did not want to pay extra or did not have the extra money and was under the impression that the initial $150 fee was supposed to include sex.

    After 20 minutes she left with the $150, but he wanted his money back. Then he came out with an AK and started shooting at the passenger side of the car. He said that he was just trying to shoot out the tires to stop it and get his money back. But she was hit in the back and the neck.


    Assuming that is how it went down, there is only one conclusion I can come to....


    Under Texas law, he should be hung by the neck until dead in the public square....


    ... for extremely poor marksmanship.




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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    I'm moving to Texas, hell yeah.
    May explain the mass exodus from California to Texas.

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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes. California is the "crooks are just misunderstood angels" state.
    Nah, more like the "we don't condone unprovoked deadly assaults" state.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Just one of many explanations for California's demise.
    Probably explains the high property values and standard of living in my area.

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    However, the definition of "reasonable" allows for quite a bit of latitude doesn't it?
    Not as much as you might think. We've got decades of caselaw narrowing the range of what is reasonable.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    That's why it's best to practice gun safety and become a good shoot. One clean shot to solve the problem for eternity is easier to explain than unloading a clip of wild shots into the person stealing your car stereo.
    The best practice is to be a lot less eager to shoot people than you appear to be.

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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    That's as absurd as the OP, I'd say....wouldn't you?


    I support the killing of thieves.


    This particular case though....

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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    If presence of a weapon is enough, then why I can't I just shoot someone who is "exercising their right to carry"? Presence is not enough to justify the use of force. An overt action so that a person has a reasonable belief of imminent bodily harm is. You are suggesting that merely taking something creates a reasonable belief. That's not true. If you are at home, and someone breaks in, you get the hell out and call the police. Any other course of action is just plain stupid.



    You clearly do not live in this world. I am sitting in a library right now. There are a great many things besides the fear of violence that keep me from stealing something. The vast vast majority of people think the way I do in this situation. Only a very deranged few take the position that you are asserting.

    A course of action that isn't always possible. Let's say your 2yo is asleep on one side of the house and you're on the other side.

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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Nah, more like the "we don't condone unprovoked deadly assaults" state.



    Probably explains the high property values and standard of living in my area.



    Not as much as you might think. We've got decades of caselaw narrowing the range of what is reasonable.



    The best practice is to be a lot less eager to shoot people than you appear to be.

    Nah. The best practice involves a target and a range.

    All joking aside, California is on a quest to restrict gun ownership a far as legally possible, so the point you're attempting to make is quickly becoming moot.

    As to demise, I guess that for another thread.

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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Nah. The best practice involves a target and a range.

    All joking aside, California is on a quest to restrict gun ownership a far as legally possible, so the point you're attempting to make is quickly becoming moot.

    As to demise, I guess that for another thread.
    Fair enough. To be clear: I have no particular problem with gun ownership. I do, however, have a problem killing someone who is not actually a danger to you. That's murder, and California state law agrees with me.

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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    May explain the mass exodus from California to Texas.
    You mean the one that's not actually happening?

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    Re: Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Fair enough. To be clear: I have no particular problem with gun ownership. I do, however, have a problem killing someone who is not actually a danger to you. That's murder, and California state law agrees with me.
    California law allows the use of deadly force when someone enters your home, and starts stealing your property, while holding you hostage.

    Best check your understanding of the law.

    Now, using deadly force for stealing your pink flamingo from the front lawn? Questionable. Depends on how long you've owned it...

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