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    Re: High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

    One can be a great mom and have a career. My mom pulled it off brilliantly.

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    Re: High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    One can be a great mom and have a career. My mom pulled it off brilliantly.
    Indeed, but one or the other, or both, suffers on occasion. Was she a CEO? On the phone and in meetings almost 24/7?

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    Re: High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    One can be a great mom and have a career. My mom pulled it off brilliantly.
    It's a bit different when you are a CEO.

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    Re: High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

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    There are certain elements of motherhood that, yes, ONLY a woman can do. And the job is one of greatest importance. More important than running a fortune 5 company - yes. No one is saying you have to do anything impotant with your life, nor do you have to go the motherhood/homemaker route. It's entirely up to you. Doesn't change the fact that, if done well, motherhood is the most important job ever. From there everything else flows.
    Yeah... no. First, the quote said that the most impact a woman can have is as a mother. That's just absurd. Unless you've raised Mark Zuckerberg, there're any number of things a woman can do with her time that will have a greater impact on the world than being a mother. Sure, being a responsible parent (of either gender) is hugely impactful to your child, but it has very little impact on my life. Certainly far less so than the business decisions of, say, Sheryl Sandberg.

    Second, there's a long list of jobs that are far more important that being a mother. Even if you just count the things that directly impact children, pediatric surgeons save the lives of thousands of children over the course of their careers, and and teachers teach hundreds of thousands of kids. Both of those jobs seriously impact the lives lots and lots of people, whereas a mother pretty much only influences her own kids.

    So no, motherhood is not the most important job ever. It's a perfectly valid life choice; and yes, children need involved parents (again: of BOTH genders) but to suggest that a woman's greatest impact comes from squirting out a baby and taking care of it is just not true.

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    High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Indeed, but one or the other, or both, suffers on occasion. Was she a CEO? On the phone and in meetings almost 24/7?
    Mine was and is. She worked at home, as a matter of fiscal need for the non-profit. She's a lobbyist and a leader of a non-profit, soon to be 3 jobs.
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    Re: High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Yeah... no. First, the quote said that the most impact a woman can have is as a mother. That's just absurd. Unless you've raised Mark Zuckerberg, there're any number of things a woman can do with her time that will have a greater impact on the world than being a mother. Sure, being a responsible parent (of either gender) is hugely impactful to your child, but it has very little impact on my life. Certainly far less so than the business decisions of, say, Sheryl Sandberg.

    Second, there's a long list of jobs that are far more important that being a mother. Even if you just count the things that directly impact children, pediatric surgeons save the lives of thousands of children over the course of their careers, and and teachers teach hundreds of thousands of kids. Both of those jobs seriously impact the lives lots and lots of people, whereas a mother pretty much only influences her own kids.

    So no, motherhood is not the most important job ever. It's a perfectly valid life choice; and yes, children need involved parents (again: of BOTH genders) but to suggest that a woman's greatest impact comes from squirting out a baby and taking care of it is just not true.
    I disagree. You don't have the pediatric surgeons, the teachers and the Sheryl Sandbergs of the world without first some women taking on that job as mother. Also, matters not if the children turn out to be luminary or not. Good people have impact, good impact.

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    Re: High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, don




    I'm gonna guess a few people here at DP think this train of thought hits a big nail squarely on the head.
    He left out the part about not marrying a spouse who can't cut if financially for her to be able stay at home.

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    Re: High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I'm gonna guess a few people here at DP think this train of thought hits a big nail squarely on the head.
    Although I don't presume to tell women what they should do, we DO need more women who are devoted to raising their children, rather than dumping them in day care facilities- especially when their children are 0-2 years of age. The first year is when a child learns to trust, and having a singlular consistent caregiver is essential. Without learning to trust, forming meaningful, long-term human relationships is very difficult.
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    Re: High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Indeed, but one or the other, or both, suffers on occasion. Was she a CEO? On the phone and in meetings almost 24/7?
    She was a teacher and a tutor. That kept both her and my dad pretty busy. They always made me a priority, though.

    The main point is that a penis is not a prerequisite for becoming a CEO. While I'm not entirely convinced I would encourage anyone to choose that life, I certainly wouldn't try to discourage women from going for it if that's what they want.

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    Re: High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, donít be CEOs

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I disagree. You don't have the pediatric surgeons, the teachers and the Sheryl Sandbergs of the world without first some women taking on that job as mother.
    Not necessarily. You think all of the most successful people in the country had stay at home moms? I guarantee that's not at all true (I actually know for a fact that it's not). Also, why does the woman have to take on that role? Several Scandinavian nations have been utilizing paid paternity leave for some time, and they have some of the best educated and wealthiest populations in the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Also, matters not if the children turn out to be luminary or not. Good people have impact, good impact.
    ...and you're still thinking of a woman as primarily an extension of her children. That's a very backwards and illogical attitude to have.

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