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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, it really isn't. Polling suggests an average of 10-30% supports for extremists in Islamic majority states. Fundamentalism (death penalty for apostasy) polls much higher, accounting for a clear high majority in places like Pakistan and Egypt

    But that doesn't really account for your sudden confusion above ...
    I'd like to see your polls and their methodology.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'd like to see your polls and their methodology.
    Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah | Pew Global Attitudes Project

    http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf

    I'm pretty sure I have cited these for you a few times in the recent past. So I'm not going to cite specific text again

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

    So you think we should round up Jews now, right? Sounds pretty specific, right?

    Maybe I can help your confusion on this:

    This is America. We don't arrest people for reading a book.
    When Jews start acting this out and citing this as their reason, while millions of their coreligionists approve, we can get back to you. In the meantime, shall we deal with bloody Reality like grownups?

    By the way, are you familiar with the Neville Chamberlain administration ion Great Britain?
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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah | Pew Global Attitudes Project

    http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf

    I'm pretty sure I have cited these for you a few times in the recent past. So I'm not going to cite specific text again
    This poll demonstrates a wide variance in opinion, based on country. Yet all these people are reading the same book. Jews and Christians read similar insanity in their books, yet their level of extremist activity in western countries is less. Meanwhile, Africa has Christian terrorist groups actively operating.

    Perhaps there's other factors involved rather than just the words in the book.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    This poll demonstrates a wide variance in opinion, based on country.
    Yes there is variance across countries. Though incidents of support for extremist and fundamentalist positions is still high, and in noway confined to some fring. If I must, I'll cite specific material from each report supporting this, but being that I'm pretty sure we had this discussion before, I don't plan on doing so unless necessary.

    Yet all these people are reading the same book.
    Well, the obvious retort to this was that I never claimed a monolithic view within islam, just a reletively high occurence of extremism and fundamentalism. Which is indeed supported by the data

    Jews and Christians read similar insanity in their books
    Again, No one claimed other religions were immune to fundamentalism and extremism. What was claimed was that there was a relatively high occurrence of such, within islam, specifically to counter the claim of these things simply existing on the "periphery"

    yet their level of extremist activity in western countries is less. Meanwhile, Africa has Christian terrorist groups actively operating.
    these christian terrorist groups also do not receive support from other christian communities, are almost universally shunned, and cannot garner support from places as far afield as mexico and the US. They are largely isolated and local phenomenon. Note, the extremist groups mentioned in the reports, even AQ, do not suffer the same limitations


    Perhaps there's other factors involved rather than just the words in the book.
    Perhaps you're not being intentionally dishonest here and ignoring that I was specifically addressing your claim of something existing on the periphery, when it actually does not . Not to mention, the fact that i never asserted the issue solely rested on a book.

    Maybe try harder in the future ...

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