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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I can't believe there are people defending this guy. It's like a reflex, "Uh oh, liberals are saying this guy's bad...I better say the opposite...uhh...Muslims! Muslims! Ahhhh!"
    who defended him?

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    who defended him?
    The guy quoting Islamic texts is either defending this man or actually believes we should start rounding up Muslims for the heinous crime of reading a book.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The guy quoting Islamic texts is either defending this man or actually believes we should start rounding up Muslims for the heinous crime of reading a book.
    Well, you clearly saw it as the later. So I am left wondfering why now you're entertaining the idea it might be a defense of the guy's behavior. Also, despite your earlier comparisons to jews, it's worth noting such fundamentalist views are still popular within Islam. The Jewish community, though they exist, it's more of a periphery thing

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Well, you clearly saw it as the later. So I am left wondfering why now you're entertaining the idea it might be a defense of the guy's behavior. Also, despite your earlier comparisons to jews, it's worth noting such fundamentalist views are still popular within Islam. The Jewish community, though they exist, it's more of a periphery thing
    It's a periphery thing among Muslims too.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    There is no racism in America. It's a libral conspiracy. The only racists in the US are those that call the KKK racist because it's obvious just an organization that promotes white GOP values.

    So goes the rightwing noise machine.

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's a periphery thing among Muslims too.
    No, it really isn't. Polling suggests an average of 10-30% supports for extremists in Islamic majority states. Fundamentalism (death penalty for apostasy) polls much higher, accounting for a clear high majority in places like Pakistan and Egypt

    But that doesn't really account for your sudden confusion above ...

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    There is no racism in America. It's a libral conspiracy. The only racists in the US are those that call the KKK racist because it's obvious just an organization that promotes white GOP values.

    So goes the rightwing noise machine.
    The KKK is pretty marginalized universally. And though I am sure some lower key hate groups can operate within the Repub ranks, it's not like the NOI and Farrakhan haven't enjoyed the hospitality of the democrats on more than a few occasions.

    Let's face it, such shunning is more based on popular perception weighed against the benefits of courting these groups

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    The KKK is pretty marginalized universally. And though I am sure some lower key hate groups can operate within the Repub ranks, it's not like the NOI and Farrakhan haven't enjoyed the hospitality of the democrats on more than a few occasions.

    Let's face it, such shunning is more based on popular perception weighed against the benefits of courting these groups
    There is no doubt Farrakhan should be shunned for his anti-Semitism, and I don't know if I agree with you about Democrats showing him hospitality. I suspect that these are just pseudoevents taken out context by the rightwing noise machine since Farrakhan regrettably has a local presence that has to be taken into account in certain local politics.

    I think the real difference is that while the KKK clearly can't operate openly as a GOP support organization, the GOP and conservatives do in fact use racist code to attract white voters, especially in the South and rural areas. The Democrats, in contrast, do not use "Farrakhan" code to attract minorities. They don't have to: they attract voters with policies, not cryptic cultural messages. In contrast, if the GOP was forthright about its policies, it would lose even more voters (which is why GOP-speak tends to involved dodges and dog whistles).

    In any case, the conservative meme that racism doesn't exist in the US is another example of GOP rhetoric designed to win over white voters using subliminal coded messages.
    Last edited by head of joaquin; 06-06-13 at 04:24 PM.

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    Re: Secret Service: Man wrote ‘KKK forever’ and threatened to shoot Obamas

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    since Farrakhan regrettably has a local presence that has to be taken into account in certain local politics.
    I'm not disputing that this is the basis for the interaction, and like I said, it's nothing I see the right being immune to, as well. What my point was that such groups will be tolerated up until the negatives involved with associating with them outweigh the benefits.

    PS As for the term "hospitality", I'm not dedicated to it's use here


    I think the real difference is that while the KKK clearly can't operate openly as a GOP support organization, the GOP and conservatives do in fact use racist code to attract white voters, especially in the South and rural areas.
    It's hard for me to actually compare the two, being that if I'm in a conservative group I would be identified with the majority in most cases, while the type of racism often expressed in liberal circles would be the exact opposite

    But regardless, the racism I see in many conservative circles can be pretty off-putting, to say the least

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