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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Are you kidding? We have the most expensive healthcare system in the world and lag in all major indicators. One surgery cost 4k in one hospital and 90k in the next and you want to proof? REally?
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    How about some evidence that the free market doesn't work in heath care?
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    That study compares England to Europe. Not the US. By the way, have you heard about all those countries trying to get rid of their UHC system and get one like ours?
    It doesn't need to compare US and UK directly. The drugs in that story are available in the US.

    The French system isn't faring much better, but they are shuttering hospitals rather than cutting as deeply into medication expenditures.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Are you kidding? We have the most expensive healthcare system in the world and lag in all major indicators. One surgery cost 4k in one hospital and 90k in the next and you want to proof? REally?

    So you don't have proof of these claims then?

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    You cant get all available drugs here either.
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    It doesn't need to compare US and UK directly. The drugs in that story are available in the US.

    The French system isn't faring much better, but they are shuttering hospitals rather than cutting as deeply into medication expenditures.
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    It was posted earlier in this thread, I beleive.
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    So you don't have proof of these claims then?
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    I don't really understand how so many people on this forum think our healthcare is even remotely good? I can't think of a person I have ever met in real life that described our health care system as providing quality care at affordable prices? Where are you guys getting these notions that all is well??? It is absolutely baffling.

    If you have any kind of substantial health issue arise it ends in massive bills. 10k, 25k, if something really bad happens 100k+

    Only the top 10% or people with incredibly good insurance can weather this without significant economic hardship or in many cases bankruptcy, ruin.

    Who the hell calls that "good"?

    If you look at statistics, rankings, indicators, almost all of them are embarrassingly bad for the U.S. compared to other developed countries. We came behind CUBA for gods sake.

    Of course right-wing propaganda tells a different story, all is well the rich tell the fools, lol.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    You cant get all available drugs here either.
    But here it is because the FDA runs studies on efficacy, in the UK you are denied effective medicine because of cost. Surely you can see the difference there?

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    That is what they have been told over and over.
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    I don't really understand how so many people on this forum think our healthcare is even remotely good? I can't think of a person I have ever met in real life that described our health care system as providing quality care at affordable prices? Where are you guys getting these notions that all is well??? It is absolutely baffling.

    If you have any kind of substantial health issue arise it ends in massive bills. 10k, 25k, if something really bad happens 100k+

    Only the top 10% or people with incredibly good insurance can weather this without significant economic hardship or in many cases bankruptcy, ruin.

    Who the hell calls that "good"?

    If you look at statistics, rankings, indicators, almost all of them are embarrassingly bad for the U.S. compared to other developed countries. We came behind CUBA for gods sake.

    Of course right-wing propaganda tells a different story, all is well the rich tell the fools, lol.
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Tell your insurace company. See what you get.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    But here it is because the FDA runs studies on efficacy, in the UK you are denied effective medicine because of cost. Surely you can see the difference there?
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Tell your insurace company. See what you get.
    So in you mind it is better to deny everyone?

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