By the way, that too is mostly a myth, because you can pick and choose some medications that are cheaper in other countries and claim an urgent need to take a torch to the medical system, but you ignore so may other medications that are cheaper in the US (and big evil Walmart et al are making most common drugs cheap even without insurance). But then that is the liberal way, making the exception the rule and legislating to it, plowing under everything that worked in the process.
Obamacare is effectively taking a torch to your house to fix a stuck door.
I'm late to this thread, so has anybody said, "Told ya so" yet?
Single payer is the only real solution because choice is taken out of the equation. If you are American, you will be insured. If you make money, you will pay for it. If you think that removing choice is wrong, I will point out that the choice of whether to pay for the care of others was taken away decades ago under Ronald Reagan with the passage of the Emergency Medical Treatment And Active Labor Act that was basically an unfunded mandate for universal healthcare. America refuses to allow the sick to go without treatment, whether they can or intend to pay for that treatment. Once society made THAT decision, healthcare essentially became a defacto right. If you disagree with this, then you should lobby for the repeal of EMTALA and let people that can pay go without care, but I'll tell you right now, there is no almost support for that.
So, to sum up, health care is a "defacto right" and you want to take all choice in this "right" out of the hands of the individual and hand it to the state... essentially taking the rights away in the process.
In other words, you haven't thought the above paragraph out too thoroughly.
It is stupid to say that ALL will get care but we are not going to build a system for all to get care, we'll just say treat them and bury the costs in insurance costs, medical costs, and taxes.
Which of course is exactly what we do now. So the idiotic fix is no different.
The entire US health care system is 16% of the economy. So TOTAL EMPTALA, by your own argument is roughly 2% of the entire US annual medical expense.... so your argument is to abandon the entire system to save some fraction of 2%.We spend an estimated $50 billion a year on EMTALA costs
why not just build it into the system and have health insurance for all. Extend Medicare to age 0, and watch the individual costs go down as we stop socializing the highest risk Americans (those over 65) and privatizing the lowest risk Americans.
Because it's not that easy?
My heart doesn't bleed, but my head is exploding at the stupidity.
I'm going to not make the obvious joke here, but thanks for the set up.
Why are there no investigations in Congress to explain why a specific medical procedure in the New York/New Jersey area costs from 7k to 99k? Instead they are wasting their time on Bengahzi and IRS and what not.. what do you think impacts the average American more?
And I have no problem with capitalism .. in fact I am very much for it, but I also understand that capitalism is flawed when not kept under scrutiny because it is human nature to exploit others for their own benefit. Flawed capitalism is why we have socialism and unions. They are the reaction to centuries of abuse while capitalism grew up.
In this case the whole industry is built up in a cartel like system, where the insurance companies and the healthcare system not only work together but set the rules to benefit themselves at the cost of the consumer. Have you ever wondered why there are so few insurance companies considering the amount of money in the healthcare system? Cause you cant just set up shop in most states... its not allowed because local law prevents it.
Look at one of the first laws Bush signed into law after the 2000 election. It prohibited the Federal government in negotiating the cheapest price with the pharma industry.. and it made it a criminal offence to take a few boxes of asprin over the Canadian border, let alone import drugs sold from the US into Canada back.. because that would cut into the profit margins in the US...
So yes, the industry is to blame because they control the politicians who write the rules and can change the system. As long as they do that, then YOU will be paying more and more for your healthcare and I pray to god that no one in your family ever gets seriously ill because chances are you wont be able to absorb a 100+k bill despite having insurance.
What we need is National Healthcare systems that let patients die because drugs are soooo expensive.