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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    It does in the rest of the world.
    Really? Where?
    Know the truth and the truth will make you mad, because the truth has no agenda.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Those are all the cost of premiums, before this we had a high plan and a low plan, since Obamacare we have these three and none are as good as what we had. Basically we got penalized by this new legislation as the cost for the ****ty plans now are more than even the high plan was before that legislation.
    I work for a small business and we haven't changed our plans one tiny bit. Your employer, if he was giving you good insurance, wasn't required to change a thing.

    And if your employer is offering you a Gold health care plan and you only pay 20% of the premiums then you are insane for complaining about that. Extremely few plans that are given to employees right now or in the past are better than the gold plans under ObamaCare.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    You didnt make a point to address.
    I'm sure you think that.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I work for a small business and we haven't changed our plans one tiny bit. Your employer, if he was giving you good insurance, wasn't required to change a thing.

    And if your employer is offering you a Gold health care plan and you only pay 20% of the premiums then you are insane for complaining about that. Extremely few plans that are given to employees right now or in the past are better than the gold plans under ObamaCare.
    Adding 26 year olds to our insurance alone was the largest increase I have ever received since working here, more that the last 10 years combined.

    My high plan was much better than this gold ****

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Adding 26 year olds to our insurance alone was the largest increase I have ever received since working here, more that the last 10 years combined.

    My high plan was much better than this gold ****
    I doubt that. And even then, exactly what are you complaining about? Your employer had the option of leaving your plan alone. The exchange is not mandatory if you already had a plan in place that met the specifications which you claim yours was even better.

    Quite frankly I don't believe what you're saying. You are saying that your employer is willing to cover 80% of your premiums if you get the most expensive plan but only 20% if you get the cheapest one? Why on earth would they do that? It makes no sense. They would be rewarding you for making them pay for more of your insurance costs.

    Quite frankly, your either lying or incredibly ignorant of everything regarding your health insurance plans.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I doubt that. And even then, exactly what are you complaining about? Your employer had the option of leaving your plan alone. The exchange is not mandatory if you already had a plan in place that met the specifications which you claim yours was even better.

    Quite frankly I don't believe what you're saying. You are saying that your employer is willing to cover 80% of your premiums if you get the most expensive plan but only 20% if you get the cheapest one? Why on earth would they do that? It makes no sense. They would be rewarding you for making them pay for more of your insurance costs.

    Quite frankly, your either lying or incredibly ignorant of everything regarding your health insurance plans.
    It is/was part of my compensation package, damn are your really that slow?

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    It is/was part of my compensation package, damn are your really that slow?
    Doesn't matter if it's part of your compensation package. Everything you are saying doesn't make sense. You're lying about it or you just don't understand it. If you wish, feel free to list old the old cost of your health care plan and the benefits of it and list out the cost of the gold plan offered to you now. Til you do that, I don't believe you. You have displayed an ignorance of even basic concepts of healthcare reform, and health insurance through out this entire argument. Feel free to prove me wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Doesn't matter if it's part of your compensation package. Everything you are saying doesn't make sense. You're lying about it or you just don't understand it. If you wish, feel free to list old the old cost of your health care plan and the benefits of it and list out the cost of the gold plan offered to you now. Til you do that, I don't believe you. You have displayed an ignorance of even basic concepts of healthcare reform, and health insurance through out this entire argument. Feel free to prove me wrong.
    And you have shown how sheep are easily led by a sheppard (obama) about something as complicated as insurance. My company insurance was great until Obamacare. Basically Obama screwed 85% of America trying look like a hero for the 15% that will never have coverage. I have already proven you wrong with your assumptions that everyone is the same which tells me you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to the various companies and coverages in insurance.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I work for a small business and we haven't changed our plans one tiny bit. Your employer, if he was giving you good insurance, wasn't required to change a thing.

    And if your employer is offering you a Gold health care plan and you only pay 20% of the premiums then you are insane for complaining about that. Extremely few plans that are given to employees right now or in the past are better than the gold plans under ObamaCare.
    In response to the bolded: BS! The entire thrust of PPACA was to mandate that all "private" medical care insurance must cover dependents until age 26, not base premium rates on anything but age and smoking, cover pre-existing conditions and not charge any "out of pocket" additions for many gov't designated "free" treatments. These mandates obviously are not "free" to the insurance company as they will result in more covered expenses from the actual care providers but cannot be passed on to only those customers that incur the added charges - resulting in premium rate increases accross the board.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I'm sure you think that.
    well, when you dont make a point, generally I would think that.
    Know the truth and the truth will make you mad, because the truth has no agenda.

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