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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Hopefully someday we will have a true UHC system. Then yes, it will.
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    do you think that will change?
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    No waiting periods for pre-existing conditions, immediate coverage...medicaid is that way already, it will cover the previous 30 days from the date of sign up. Why do you think people wont take advantage of this? They take advantage of everything else...this will be different how?
    You didn't address my post. You just ignored it and continued with the original argument.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    No, I have my plan right here in front of me. Gold is 80/20, Silver is 70/30, and Bronze is 20/80. So you are full of sh*t like most libs that listen to what they are told.
    I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Maybe your employer bought you a ****ty plan, more likely you just don't understand it, but bronze plans cover 60% after deductible, and they have an out of pocket cap. All plans have this cap after Obama Care, it was in the law.

    Bronze Health Plans - Information on Bronze Healthcare Plans - Healthpocket

    Bronze Plans are designed so that insurance companies will pay 60% of covered healthcare expenses with the remaining 40% to be paid by consumers. The consumer’s expenses will be in the form of out-of-pocket fees over and above the cost of the plan’s monthly premium. Out-of-pocket expenses for individuals is expected to be capped at $6,350 annually starting in 2014.
    You need to go and read more on your health care plan, because when and if you need to use it, it would help to actually know what you have.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Maybe your employer bought you a ****ty plan, more likely you just don't understand it, but bronze plans cover 60% after deductible, and they have an out of pocket cap. All plans have this cap after Obama Care, it was in the law.

    Bronze Health Plans - Information on Bronze Healthcare Plans - Healthpocket



    You need to go and read more on your health care plan, because when and if you need to use it, it would help to actually know what you have.


    I have my package in front of me, my screen is Friday. Thanks to Obamacare all of these screens are required at these clinics now instead of my normal doctor because the paper trail that must follow. Obamacare has destroyed the great insurance that working families have enjoyed for years but it has also managed to brainwash the mindless followers in the process.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I have my package in front of me,
    Then either it is typed out wrong or you aren't reading it correctly. The most logical conclusion from this is you have no idea what you are talking about. A plan that has 80% copay with no out of pocket cap is not allowed under ObamaCare. And that's not just me saying that, but every source I can find backs me up. You are mistaken, misinformed or just plain lying.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Then either it is typed out wrong or you aren't reading it correctly. The most logical conclusion from this is you have no idea what you are talking about. A plan that has 80% copay with no out of pocket cap is not allowed under ObamaCare. And that's not just me saying that, but every source I can find backs me up. You are mistaken, misinformed or just plain lying.
    No you are. I had great insurance before Obamacare always taking the high plan even though the cost was more because the coverage is great. Now thanks to Obama and the stupid ass liberals that support him I am having to waste time and money jumping through hoops to maintain a gold plan that does not even compare to the high plan I had before. Everyone that refuses to jump through hoops gets dumped to the bronze which means you would be just as well off without insurance.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    No you are. I had great insurance before Obamacare always taking the high plan even though the cost was more because the coverage is great. Now thanks to Obama and the stupid ass liberals that support him I am having to waste time and money jumping through hoops to maintain a gold plan that does not even compare to the high plan I had before. Everyone that refuses to jump through hoops gets dumped to the bronze which means you would be just as well off without insurance.
    You don't even know what a bronze plan is. How do you expect anyone to believe anything else you say? You said that is only pays out 20% of the bill and has no out of pocket cap. You are wrong. Prove me wrong and tell me the policy name and the company it is through. I don't need any personal information just the company and plan name.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    You don't even know what a bronze plan is. How do you expect anyone to believe anything else you say? You said that is only pays out 20% of the bill and has no out of pocket cap. You are wrong. Prove me wrong and tell me the policy name and the company it is through. I don't need any personal information just the company and plan name.
    no you said it had no out of pocket cap, I never said that so again you lied as most Obama supporting libs do. Why would I share my info with a proven liar such as yourself?

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    no you said it had no out of pocket cap, I never said that so again you lied as most Obama supporting libs do. Why would I share my info with a proven liar such as yourself?
    Feel free to re-read our conversation. At no point did I say any plan didn't have an out of pocket cap. I said they all do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    The bronze level means you pay 80% of all costs. My company went to this plan forcing to jump through all kinds of hoops to maintain the great insurance we had before Obamacare.

    Obama literally screwed 85% of people with coverage with this legislation.
    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    This is false. There is a cap on out of pocket expenses on all plans offered after Obama Care is full implemented. It's the law. It's also false that you pay 80% of costs up to the out of pocket limit. You pay your deductible, then 20% of costs, til you hit the limit, at which point everything is covered.

    And we wonder why people are scared. They don't know a damn thing about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    No, I have my plan right here in front of me. Gold is 80/20, Silver is 70/30, and Bronze is 20/80. So you are full of sh*t like most libs that listen to what they are told.
    You're plan has an out of pocket cap. So when you said you pay 80% of all costs, that was false. You also will not be paying 80% of costs. You will pay 40% if you have a bronze plan.

    Again, if you want to prove me wrong then give plan name and company name. But every source I have ever seen goes against what you are saying here.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    No, I have my plan right here in front of me. Gold is 80/20, Silver is 70/30, and Bronze is 20/80. So you are full of sh*t like most libs that listen to what they are told.
    How about fox news are they just liberal lackies?

    Could possible misunderstanding on ObamaCare cloud Supreme Court deliberations? | Fox News

    This second provision allows insurance companies to sell policies that have widely different levels of annual deductibles and copayments. A "platinum" plan would cover 90 percent of expected health care expenses, but on the bottom tier a bronze plan only covers 60 percent.

    Read more: Could possible misunderstanding on ObamaCare cloud Supreme Court deliberations? | Fox News
    And you want to talk **** to me? Good lord you can't see anything else over all the bull**** your spewing.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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