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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Right...but now that you can no longer be denied for pre-existing conditions then when something goes wrong you simply hit up the exchange, get your insurance, have your bills paid and then, once everything is back to normal, drop the insurance again.
    The answer is to raise the tax which I believe is already in the bill. It's sad that some still won't take advantage of the subsidies and stop the games but you can lead a horse to water....

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So much for bending the cost curve down eh? Wow! Why would anyone not just pay the tax? Man, what a lie we were forced into with this crap.
    Once again the Cons have to lead with an article from a political porn site. If you can't back up your statement with something from real news, you do not have a point make. You can enjoy your fantasies, just don't try to drag the rest us into them.

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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Once again the Cons have to lead with an article from a political porn site. If you can't back up your statement with something from real news, you do not have a point make. You can enjoy your fantasies, just don't try to drag the rest us into them.
    CNS is a news outlet that is credentialed, and represented in the WH press pool. That they don't spin the news with a left leaning bias, is why I suspect you don't like them. In any case, attacking the source is a well worn fallacy. Is there something in the article presented you can dispute? If not your post has no relevance to the thread.
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Remember what I said about people that think healthcare is free?
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    How much of that do you suspect he will pay?
    My gut is that he'll either file bankruptcy or just not pay it. I doubt the hospital would try to garnish wages in that amount. It'll get passed on to other people that actually have insurance or that actually pay their bills.
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    And then they wont be able to pay it either and have to file bankruptcy too. I know how that works.
    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    My gut is that he'll either file bankruptcy or just not pay it. I doubt the hospital would try to garnish wages in that amount. It'll get passed on to other people that actually have insurance or that actually pay their bills.
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, I didn't say that, but I am looking at this from my point of view. Based on the story, regulation is setting the cost of the lowest coverage at $20K per year.

    My company has expressed concerns that they may not be able to continue our coverage.

    My wife takes medication now that on its own one prescription would cost me roughly $1200. per month, but I can't afford to by my own plan at @$1200. per month either....

    So, while Obama preached that he was for the middle class like me, I am getting the shaft more than anyone.....You supporters think that is fair?
    Well all we really have is California as a test case because they have been one of the first states to start setting up exchanges.

    Here's their information...a payment calculator Health Insurance Calculator | Covered California? on your expenses out of pocket (it's for the Silver Plan as opposed to Bronze)

    Here's what the plans cover
    http://www.coveredca.com/PDFs/Englis...risonChart.pdf

    Luckily California is going first and are a great test subject for what Obamacare will look like.

    This of course is assuming you get dropped.

    Edit: Keep in mind this is just the beginning and estimates are that prices will drop as they compete on the exchanges for millions of individuals.
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Well all we really have is California as a test case because they have been one of the first states to start setting up exchanges.

    Here's their information...a payment calculator Health Insurance Calculator | Covered California? on your expenses out of pocket (it's for the Silver Plan as opposed to Bronze)

    Here's what the plans cover
    http://www.coveredca.com/PDFs/Englis...risonChart.pdf

    Luckily California is going first and are a great test subject for what Obamacare will look like.

    This of course is assuming you get dropped.

    Edit: Keep in mind this is just the beginning and estimates are that prices will drop as they compete on the exchanges for millions of individuals.
    Well, thanks for that, I hadn't seen anything like that yet...From what it looks like my cost would be $578 per month for less coverage than I have now, and my monthly out of pocket would rise by nearly double what I pay now. Plus the deductible is double what I have now, plus the prescription plan is vague as to what that deductible is, or what the co pay would be....Although the "Gold plan" looks closer to what I have now, I am assuming it would be even more expensive....I can't afford that.

    So, tell me, how is this bending my cost curve down? How is this going to, as Obama promised, going to "save the average family of four, $2500. per year"....?????

    That was a lie, No?
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    Re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yes, and in Spain they have actually started to educate the population on costs... healthcare is free (well pretty much) but you get a bill when you are in hospital. That way people get to see how much it actually costs and frankly it is a good idea.
    When military members use Tricare, particularly going to an outside hospital, we get a bill too that is basically just an informational bill (covered by Tricare completely). I got one when I had an allergic reaction to shrimp and had to go to a civilian hospital in downtown Seattle. It was thousands of dollars for them to drive me to the hospital, give me a couple of shots of benadryl and epinephrine and observe me for about 2 hours then tell me I had an allergic reaction and send me home.
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