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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Have to say...I read the article and the guy sounded like a hobbit complaining that he didnt get his midday secondsies lunch. Like many others I spent multiple trips into the ME and have had a variety of living arrangements from sleeping on equipment in the middle of nowhere to surplus era canvas tents to the eagle package tents. Never got to the portable castles. Never had a mess hall (spent some time in Riyadh were they had TCNS making the same thing over and over and over...I preferred the MREs to stale grilled cheese and chicken yakisoba). As I read the story this is just a consequence of the draw down. Time to suck it up a little bit. They think they have it bad, try some of the K-rats and 80's era MREs...
    I preferred the 80's MRE's over the later ones. I would have locked and loaded, the first time I got a vegetarian MRE...LOL!!
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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

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    I preferred the 80's MRE's over the later ones. I would have locked and loaded, the first time I got a vegetarian MRE...LOL!!
    I dont know...the dehydrated hamburger...the omelettes...hell the peanut butter and crackers you could build a hardened air shelter with.

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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont know...the dehydrated hamburger...the omelettes...hell the peanut butter and crackers you could build a hardened air shelter with.
    They've got some pretty sweet MRE's out now. They have chicken in tomato and feta cheese (my fav), maple sausage (second fav), and a few others. MRE's have definitely come a long way from Country Captain Chicken, Teriyaki Chicken (found a beak in mine once, no crap), etc, etc. I miss the 4 fingers of death though (4 small dogs). That was a good one they should have left on the menu. Plus, the heaters with Tabasco in them are awesome to make into a CS bomb lol.
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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Not only did I find a thread that doesn't contain partisian hackery, I learned something in the bargain! Talk about disparity of service, lol, I seriously had no idea.

    Sincerely, thank you for sleeping on rocks and eating what looks like dog food in service of your country. I appreciate it, and I appreciate you.
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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    There is a constant push-pull (hatred?) in our military, especially in the Army and Marine Corps, between the guys whipping it on outside the wire and the guys inside the wire sitting on these huge Forward Operating Bases (FOBs). It is the one thing we Marines and soldiers can agree on. We hate Fobbits. In the case of this story, you're hearing from a "Fobbit" (Urban Dictionary: fobbit) as we call them. The disparity amongst experiences by servicemembers is astounding. Probably more so in these wars than any other in US history.

    Below I will lay out the differences for you:

    Ground Pounders
    Lodging: At most a two man tent or fighting hole
    Sleeping arrangements: In a sleeping bag on dirt or rolled sleeping pad
    Food: MRE's and sometimes tray rations
    Schedule: Dependent upon the enemy. Usually a 4 hour perimeter watch, a 6-8 hour patrol, and a 4 hour assignment to Quick Reaction Force in case the patrol that is out gets into contact.
    Off time: Does not apply. Usually spent cleaning weapons/the patrol base or improving security measures around the base. Normally they will get 1 hour a week to call home on a satellite phone.

    Fobbits
    Lodging: Usually a converted 2 man packing container with A/C and heater complete with wifi and cable
    Sleeping arrangements: Mattress with sheets and a blanket. Possibly a cot.
    Food: Even with the reduction of meals, 3 meals a day in a buffet style setting. Think Golden Corral
    Schedule: Usually 8-12 hour shifts including 1 hour of physical training and 2, 1 hour meal periods.
    Off time: You name it. Internet cafe, coffee shops, game rooms, fast food, bazaar's, movie theaters, video game centers, outdoor pools, huge fitness centers (think Gold's Gym), R/C car tracks, barber shops/hair stylists, masseuses, etc, etc



    I totally understand the role that "Fobbits" play. They support guys like me that are outside the wire fighting the good fight. I'm not discounting their jobs. I'm discounting the fact that they live the way they live and then have the audacity to complain about it when something changes. This is not a generalization. Many, many times on my short stays aboard one of these massive wastes of money, I have heard the phrases such as "Aww man they're out of ice cream" "I can't believe we're having parmesan chicken again" "They're showing Avengers again?" "Internet's been down for like 4 hours!". Next time you want to thank a servicemember for his service, remember not all service is created equal. The best example I can give is the difference a cop in Beverly Hills has and a cop in Compton has. Yeah, they're both cops. No, their service is not equal.

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    like to know what fob you were at,that would have been paradise to me.

    they wouldnt let me leave the fob,they claimed i was too mission essential,but in reality i kinda was,i fixed all their trucks,and the guys they were sending outside were usually screwups,and despite volunteering for every mission,i got denied.

    now my fob didnt have 2 man containers with ac,we had 20 man tents with ac,which didnt work 90% of the time.our defac was almost 2 miles away and we had to walk it,it certainly wasnt buffet style eather,for the first half of the deployment it was t-rats.

    when we got their,the germans had already established a base,but the american side was one giant sand dune,in which we built from the ground up,no ac at first,140 degree weather(even the locals admitted it hadnt been that hot since the 80's)no american px,just a norwegian and german px.


    of course i can somewhat relate to your hate for fobbits.when my unit was leaving,first air cav was taking over.their lieutenant threw a fit saying a tent as a cp for the company commander was barbaric,yet ours used it since the day we put it up.they were crying about the tents instead of containers,how terrible the food was compared to the gourmet they had in iraq etc.of all that one ssg from their unit told them to stfu,that these soldiers built it from the ground up with literally nothing,and you soldiers are whining because the foods not good enough or that your commander has to work in a tent in a combat zone rather than a 5 start luxory building.
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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I was a civilian over in yonder sand box. Without my crew and my happy ass delivering fuel to the FOBs and every other bag farm, those Humvees helos and other assorted heavy artillery would have been big ass bricks and worth just as much. Trust me the military needed all the logistical help they could muster. Which ment me and mine. By the way I am NOT former military.
    Yes, but the military could have done it themselves before President Clinton made his cuts. The military had a huge logistical support system in place, replaced by Halliburton and others under Clinton.

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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yes, but the military could have done it themselves before President Clinton made his cuts. The military had a huge logistical support system in place, replaced by Halliburton and others under Clinton.
    I don't think you quite understand why contractors were needed. Its not that the Army or Marines couldn't move the stuff they could, at least marginally. Kellogg Brown and Root whom I worked for before they were folded into Halliburton simply provided more logistics capacity then the military had and expanded the number of troopers that could be supported and well, WITHOUT a full mobilization effort. It also allowed the military to concentrate on recruiting for the combat arms of the military. Was the system perfect? No, not by any means. The government can screw anything up and they screwed the pooch with the contractor situation to a small degree. That said contractors add a level of performance and flexibility in ADDITION and complimentary to military logistics. Here's another thing the routine deployment for soldiers is between 6 months to 12 months or at least it was when I was abroad. Most contractors spent over 2 years there some I know have spent the duration of the conflict. That's a big plus in familiarity and situational awareness and continuity.
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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

    Pirate, I agree with you to the point of delivering to some safe place outside the warzone. We used to have all the logistical support we needed from that point on.

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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Pirate, I agree with you to the point of delivering to some safe place outside the warzone. We used to have all the logistical support we needed from that point on.
    Well, I have to say since I was said contractor in aforementioned conflict, in active combat zones, you could definitely and rightly say I am biased on the issue. The military still has very massive logistics capability. That is THE PRIME reason NO one can beat us in a conventional shooting war our military has so much logistics capacity. But that massive capacity has limits.

    Query, what is it about contractors in war zones that concerns you?
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    Re: Marines Complain About Food

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    There is a constant push-pull (hatred?) in our military, especially in the Army and Marine Corps, between the guys whipping it on outside the wire and the guys inside the wire sitting on these huge Forward Operating Bases (FOBs). It is the one thing we Marines and soldiers can agree on. We hate Fobbits. In the case of this story, you're hearing from a "Fobbit" (Urban Dictionary: fobbit) as we call them. The disparity amongst experiences by servicemembers is astounding. Probably more so in these wars than any other in US history.

    Below I will lay out the differences for you:

    Ground Pounders
    Lodging: At most a two man tent or fighting hole
    Sleeping arrangements: In a sleeping bag on dirt or rolled sleeping pad
    Food: MRE's and sometimes tray rations
    Schedule: Dependent upon the enemy. Usually a 4 hour perimeter watch, a 6-8 hour patrol, and a 4 hour assignment to Quick Reaction Force in case the patrol that is out gets into contact.
    Off time: Does not apply. Usually spent cleaning weapons/the patrol base or improving security measures around the base. Normally they will get 1 hour a week to call home on a satellite phone.

    Fobbits
    Lodging: Usually a converted 2 man packing container with A/C and heater complete with wifi and cable
    Sleeping arrangements: Mattress with sheets and a blanket. Possibly a cot.
    Food: Even with the reduction of meals, 3 meals a day in a buffet style setting. Think Golden Corral
    Schedule: Usually 8-12 hour shifts including 1 hour of physical training and 2, 1 hour meal periods.
    Off time: You name it. Internet cafe, coffee shops, game rooms, fast food, bazaar's, movie theaters, video game centers, outdoor pools, huge fitness centers (think Gold's Gym), R/C car tracks, barber shops/hair stylists, masseuses, etc, etc



    I totally understand the role that "Fobbits" play. They support guys like me that are outside the wire fighting the good fight. I'm not discounting their jobs. I'm discounting the fact that they live the way they live and then have the audacity to complain about it when something changes. This is not a generalization. Many, many times on my short stays aboard one of these massive wastes of money, I have heard the phrases such as "Aww man they're out of ice cream" "I can't believe we're having parmesan chicken again" "They're showing Avengers again?" "Internet's been down for like 4 hours!". Next time you want to thank a servicemember for his service, remember not all service is created equal. The best example I can give is the difference a cop in Beverly Hills has and a cop in Compton has. Yeah, they're both cops. No, their service is not equal.

    The drawdown diet: Marines steamed by loss of hot meal at Afghanistan base - World News
    Each one has an A/C and heater, bed, wifi, cable, electricity, etc
    Attachment 67148294
    Each one has worms, mud, and comes with 3 hours of hard labor to make. Oh joy!
    Attachment 67148295
    Daily grilling aboard FOB Leatherneck
    Attachment 67148296
    Cornbeefed hash Tray Rations.
    Attachment 67148297
    Corned beef hash does not look good, but could be worse. Think "5 Fingers of Death" here. LOL.
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