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Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220:563]

Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

Also providing you with the country's missile defense systems from those barns and trailer parks...

Now we can add wasting taxpayer dollars on stupid, impractical hardware to the list of alabama traits.
 
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Now we can add wasting taxpayer dollars on stupid, impractical hardware to the list of alabama traits.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. BTW it also manages the R&D of the President's drone technology...
 
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Wow...do you REALLY think that dodge is going to work?

Love sinners...but do not excuse sin. People ALWAYS rush to use Christ to justify their position when it is convenient but ignore the inconvenient parts. Christ absolutely showed love to the prostitute. He showed caring and compassion. He also directed her very clearly...go forth and sin no more. but...well...lets just gloss over that part.

There are no perfect people. We all fall short. Many do NOT believe homosexuality is a sin and GOOD ON THEM. They should live, love and be happy. Many believe in God and follow Christs teachings (though some just use them when it is as mentioned earlier...convenient). The preacher in question believes in the word of God and does not believe homosexuality...a sin...should be allowed. His faith...his practice...his choice. Some very judgmental types (irony there, right?) have quickly pounced on his position because he dares to not agree with them.

Finally someone who understands! :peace

I patiently read the thread and waited to post. Thank you for saving me a lot of typing.

I would not attend a Baptist church that would allow the BSA to meet there now, after this rule change.
 
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. BTW it also manages the R&D of the President's drone technology...

No point in bothering somebody whose mind is already made up with facts, and your facts simply don't fit the narrative.
 
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Finally someone who understands! :peace

I patiently read the thread and waited to post. Thank you for saving me a lot of typing.

I would not attend a Baptist church that would allow the BSA to meet there now, after this rule change.

What's important to remember too is that this is one pastor, just one.
 
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While believing in a creator myself, I do not really have a dog in that exact fight, so would be interested... and what do you consider "smart" about the opposing opinion, especially as expressed here in this thread?

I don't know where you got the idea that whether or not a creator exists is a matter of debate in this thread.
 
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No point in bothering somebody whose mind is already made up with facts, and your facts simply don't fit the narrative.

I'm just having a bit of fun this evening...
 
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The Boy Scouts has not become the Gay Scouts.

It's still the Boy Scouts.

Do those churches ask every single person who steps on to their property what their sexual orientation is?

See, that's just the thing, nobody should be declaring their sexual orientation... nobody need be sexual at all in the boy scouts, not its intended mission at all.
 
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FYI, if you have any more info on how alabama is wasting my tax dollars, please let me know.

Speaking of stupid, Alabama does not spend your tax dollars...
 
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No point in bothering somebody whose mind is already made up with facts, and your facts simply don't fit the narrative.

People from alabama don't know facts, because rush hasn't told them any, and neither has their pastor(s).
 
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People from alabama don't know facts, because rush hasn't told them any, and neither has their pastor(s).

Do you have anything intelligent to post this evening?
 
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See, that's just the thing, nobody should be declaring their sexual orientation... nobody need be sexual at all in the boy scouts, not its intended mission at all.

Neither is the 29,000 sexual assaults in the military over the past year...but where ever you find human beings, you'll find sexual activities. Even the birds and bees do it.

Wait till boy and gril scouts merge...as one giant scout organization.
 
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Correct. The federal govt does.

To be specific, for every $1.00 that Alabama pays to the Federal govt in taxes, the federal govt spends $1.66 on Alabama

Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider

That's one of the reasons I'm Libertarian.

I dream of an America where the uneducated ignorant jerk offs in states like alabama could actually get off their asses and make it on their own instead of depending on my tax dollars.
 
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It's the Churches decision to make. It's the wrong one but at least they are giving the boy scouts troop enough time to find a new place to meet.



We are in total agreement about it being the Church's decision.


Of the two ways, bringing freely, willingly, most often happily towards an almost spirit generated positivity of guiding, good deeds and knowledge, again, these concepts brought by religions voluntarily, taken, by whoever decides to take, in the same vein ...

Compared to this new social enforcement of viewpoint... certainly admirably hard worked for and astoundingly well accomplished in such a short time, this change in world wide society's perceptions... salmon like, leaping upstream, up against the basic under-girding of our more natural character.

Really an amazing achievement... which doesn't diminish from the fact that this new view, in reality, is now forced upon the many. Where is the tolerance of others, the allowance of diversity of belief? Is not something being lost here?

So you "encourage", push push pushing the BS of America to change its heart, whether they really wanted to or not...

But one sees, recognizes that just changing the BS of A ...that's just just not sufficient, huh? These groups cannot stop at that, they must FORCE the church to change as well? To go against its actual beliefs ...

Sounds very intolerant to me.
 
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Brilliant Pastor Greg.
You think homosexuality is a sin,yet you all but put up a sign that said "No sinners allowed in this church".
Why don't you put up a sign on your church's front door that reads "No Adulterers Allowed" and see what that does to Sunday Mass attendance.

The thing seems to be, though, that most of the other sinners are not throwing their sins in everyone's faces, forcing the rest to not only recognize their sin but this almost impatient insistence that it be accepted if not actually celebrated.

Why call attention, why not just do what the rest do, which is do what they do and not make a big deal about it, nobody else will either, nobody has that kind of time.

And, seems it used to be that the first amendment right to assemble freely with whom they so chose was not such a forgotten, yet still a forever inalienable [ meaning cannot be taken or even given away ] right. So should any group not be able to exercise this right without fear of insult and all this subtle, yet readily overt, coercion?

One is just not allowed, either, any longer to have a differing set of values, and those values manditorily imposed just happen to be coincident with yours... hmmmmm....
 
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Very sad that so-called "Christians" would want the Boy Scouts to discriminate against children who are homosexual.
 
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Yes they should. On that we agree. Where an organization has capitulated on its principles and foundation, well...then it should certainly find new associations.

Especially when their principles were as reprehensible as being the anti-gay bigots that they were.
 
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I don't know where you got the idea that whether or not a creator exists is a matter of debate in this thread.

You mean sorta similar to the fact that nobody really being particularly concerned if it happens to matter to you whether I self identified or not? Yeah.

Just might give others, who may actually be here to debate, a baseline, maybe allows me a little more objectivity, not having to defend a specific religion while also letting those who are up for real debate a bit more understanding of exactly where I am coming from.

But, per usual, notice you do not answer the actual points made, instead you start immediately a campaign to assault... not of my arguments, but only the more extraneous points, or my character... think that is the best debate strategy, is it?
 
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Especially when their principles were as reprehensible as being the anti-gay bigots that they were.
Sure...you bet
 
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