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The Boy Scouts of America's (BSA) decision to lift its controversial ban on gay youth participants has received praise and criticism in equal measure, but one Alabama church leader isn't having any of it.
In the wake of the Boy Scouts' ruling, Pastor Greg Walker tells WBRC-TV that Boy Scout troops will no longer be welcome to meet onsite at the First Baptist Church of Helena.
"It's hard on a personal level to say to a troop of young boys who have done nothing wrong and to the leaders, 'You're not welcome here,'" Walker told the news channel. "I didn't make the decision, Boy Scouts of America did."

Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker After Gay Youth Policy Lifted Nationwide


How so very Christian of you Greg. Oh wait.
 
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And absolutely no one cared what some bigot pastor had to say.
 
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Scouting is a great organization that has done many people, including myself, a lot of good. It's a shame that so many people are going to shut out the BSA because of this decision. It would have happened a lot sooner had it not been for so many narrow interests within the organization. The BSA is really at a lose-lose here. Plenty of other organizations, including an elementary school around where I live, refused to sponsor them if they continued to exclude gays. Ten years ago, it would have been far riskier making the decision, but today it's probably just as risky to stay with the status quo. Either decision was going to piss a lot of people off. Hopefully, the new people and those who decide to stay and support the BSA based on this decision outnumber those who leave, but even if it doesn't improve the numbers, the BSA still made the right decision. I'm glad that they took the risk that they did and erred on the side of doing what is right over what most easily satisfies the supporters of the status quo.
 
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It is a church. If they feel that allowing gay scouts to use their facilities conflicts with the purpose and teachings of his church, then that is his right. I don't consider it being a jerk--I consider it exercising his organization's right to dissent.
 
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It is a church. If they feel that allowing gay scouts to use their facilities conflicts with the purpose and teachings of his church, then that is his right. I don't consider it being a jerk--I consider it exercising his organization's right to dissent.

The BSA are not a religious organization. I'm sure other groups would be permitted to use the church. I think this is out and out descrimination.
 
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Bigotry's acceptable if a church does it? What are the odds it's the individual's decision, and not that of his "organisation"?
 
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It is a church. .

A Christian Church at that. Obviously they have their own take on what that truly means. There's a word for this...
 
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It is a church. If they feel that allowing gay scouts to use their facilities conflicts with the purpose and teachings of his church, then that is his right. I don't consider it being a jerk--I consider it exercising his organization's right to dissent.

Well, so far, it is their right. It's also my right to think they're jerks.

If this Baptist church interprets through its faith that it's just fine to discriminate against people based upon sexual discrimination/gay rights discrimination or anything else? They are poor examples of the Christian faith, in my opinion.
 
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Well, so far, it is their right. It's also my right to think they're jerks.

If this Baptist church interprets through its faith that it's just fine to discriminate against people based upon sexual discrimination/gay rights discrimination or anything else? They are poor examples of the Christian faith, in my opinion.

Hold on a minute..how old are these ''gay scouts??''
 
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and more here: Churches grapple with whether to cut Boy Scout ties

“We believe that the BSA policy change will lead to a mass exodus from the Boy Scout program, as Assemblies of God and many other churches can no longer support groups that are part of an organization allowing members who are openly homosexual,”


I though they were supposed to love the sinner... :roll:
 
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The BSA are not a religious organization. I'm sure other groups would be permitted to use the church. I think this is out and out descrimination.
No, it's out and out marketting.
 
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?? I don't understand your post.

Sorry Mags..what I don't understand is that ''gay scouts''are now accepted..

But ''Gay scout masters'' are not..

What age are these ''gay scouts??''
 
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It is a church. If they feel that allowing gay scouts to use their facilities conflicts with the purpose and teachings of his church, then that is his right. I don't consider it being a jerk--I consider it exercising his organization's right to dissent.

The Boy Scouts has not become the Gay Scouts.

It's still the Boy Scouts.

Do those churches ask every single person who steps on to their property what their sexual orientation is?
 
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It's the Churches decision to make. It's the wrong one but at least they are giving the boy scouts troop enough time to find a new place to meet.

 
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Sorry Mags..what I don't understand is that ''gay scouts''are now accepted..

But ''Gay scout masters'' are not..

What age are these ''gay scouts??''

Youth and adults who are developmentally disabled, or youth with severe physical challenges, may be considered for registration beyond the age of eligibility for their program: [from 7 to 11]over age 11 for a Cub Scout, [from 12 to 18]18 as a Boy Scout or Varsity Scout, or ]from 18 to 21]21 as a Venturer or Sea Scout (see Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America, article XI, section 3, clause 20, reproduced in the appendix, 11.5.0.0). A developmentally disabled adult of any age, for example, may be considered for youth membership and join Scouting if a qualified medical professional is able to correlate cognitive abilities to less than the upper limit of an eligibility age. Members approved to be so registered are indicated in the system with a disability code.

Registering Qualified Members Beyond Age of Eligibility

[]=Maggie added.
 
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Hold on a minute..how old are these ''gay scouts??''

The pastor actually answered your question. In the process he made it appear it was he that was shouldering the burden not them. Gotta love hypocrisy.


It's hard on a personal level to say to a troop of young boys who have done nothing wrong and to the leaders, 'You're not welcome here,'"

So he calls the very boys he's banning innocent, and bans them anyway.

You can't make this **** up.
 
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It's the Churches decision to make. It's the wrong one but at least they are giving the boy scouts troop enough time to find a new place to meet.

How so very considerate of them. This makes it all better. :roll:
 
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The Boy Scouts has not become the Gay Scouts.

It's still the Boy Scouts.

Do those churches ask every single person who steps on to their property what their sexual orientation is?

No, they probably don't, but large orgs with organized activities that want to use their facilities they probably do. Doesn't matter either way, they have a right to refuse any org. This is happenning, more quietly, all around the country. Small and large campgrounds are withdrawing their BS support. The Scouts are losing their camps (many of them were sold to private campgrounds back a bit when the Scouts started dying off).
 
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How so very considerate of them. This makes it all better. :roll:

I need to know..at what age these boy's declare themselves as ''gay??''

18 to 21??

Is this a joke??
 
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How so very considerate of them. This makes it all better. :roll:

Don't get snarky with me catman :moody

I didn't make the decision, I just try to look for a silver lining. Their Church has a right to decide who's allowed on the property and who isn't, at least now those scouts get to see him for who he is and they can move on.
 
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It's a CHURCH IN ALABAMA! Why bother with this?

A thread should have something interesting, and not have a "um, duh?" factor.

Is this another soapbox attempt for gay rights? At least the Chick-Fil-A stuff brought up legitimate discussion. Targeting a church in Bible Belt BFE is a waste of time.
 
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That's just disappointing.
 
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