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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How judgmental of you...speaking of being a good Christian...LOL!!!
    There is nothing unChristian about exposing hatred. Jesus would do the same. He wanted all of his disciples to be righteous and examples of righteousness and to shine the light of truth upon all wickidness, including hatred.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220:563]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    Yes, you have the right to be a hateful bigot and claim that such attitudes are Christian. Its very legal.

    But a higher power will have final judgement and it won't be a good one.
    You speak for God, now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220:563]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You speak for God, now?
    I can read. I've read the Bible.

    God wants us to be loving and kind to all. Including sinners.

    We are to love them while condemning sin. This is how Jesus lived.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You appear to claim to understand the Bible and the various flavours of christianity - why don't YOU?
    Why would I want to condemn people to hell? Why would I want to believe that the vast majority of humanity (as "unbelievers") is going to spend eternity in endless torture?

    Why would I use 'faith' to claim that I am more moral than everyone else? I obviously have no more morality ("family values") or moral authority than anyone else on the Earth, except it seems, if I were a religious Christian. Why would I publicly condemn and judge those who I believe to be 'morally unfit' like gays, sex workers, women who get abortions or even harmless idiots like those who cuss and swear?

    Why would I demand to say "Merry Christmas", pray in public or erect crosses and the 10 Commandments; just so Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs and atheists can feel uncomfortable and excluded in their home countries? Why would I want to complain that I am being persecuted for actively practicing my Christian religion in the public square and in government, whilst showing minority faiths absolute disrespect?

    Why would I want to believe that praying, church attendance, tithing, God's Grace or repentance have any substantial benefit in this world; when that time spent in church could be spent actually helping needy people? Or all that money given to churches and pastors/preachers living comfortable, posh lives in first-world countries could instead be given to the poor and the unfortunate?

    Why would I ever want to believe that humans have 'original sin'? Why I would I want to have no hope in humanity, or the goodness and kindness of people? Why would I want to believe that all the suffering, misery and hopelessness in the world is required by an (1) an uncaring deity or (2) a merciless entity out to test his creations by causing them pain; instead of believing that there is NO God, and that on account of this, there is actual hope for humanity to better itself and ease it's suffering?

    I wonder sometimes ...

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    There is nothing unChristian about exposing hatred. Jesus would do the same. He wanted all of his disciples to be righteous and examples of righteousness and to shine the light of truth upon all wickidness, including hatred.
    It was Jesus that made homosexuality is an abomination.

    Have you ever actually read the Bible, or are you just regurgitating the talking points emailed to you by your handlers at MSNBC?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    wolfie isn't entirely offbase, nor are you. There's a reason we are told not to go grocery shopping when we're hungry - it affects our shopping. Young ones on the cusp of or into puberty are generally at the mercy of their hormones, their urges are strong and have not yet learned the control over their desires that adults [should] have. That's one of the reasons for adult supervision at these camps.

    If anything is going to happen, it will happen because one is attracted to the other. That's not going to happen with a group of all heterosexual boys.
    From some of the stories I have heard, many hetero boyscouts were quite willing and able to do some sexual "exploration" without any gays in the club.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It was Jesus that made homosexuality is an abomination.

    Have you ever actually read the Bible, or are you just regurgitating the talking points emailed to you by your handlers at MSNBC?
    Slander is a sin my friend. No less of a sin than homosexuality.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220]

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Why would I want to condemn people to hell? Why would I want to believe that the vast majority of humanity (as "unbelievers") is going to spend eternity in endless torture?

    Why would I use 'faith' to claim that I am more moral than everyone else? I obviously have no more morality ("family values") or moral authority than anyone else on the Earth, except it seems, if I were a religious Christian. Why would I publicly condemn and judge those who I believe to be 'morally unfit' like gays, sex workers, women who get abortions or even harmless idiots like those who cuss and swear?

    Why would I demand to say "Merry Christmas", pray in public or erect crosses and the 10 Commandments; just so Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs and atheists can feel uncomfortable and excluded in their home countries? Why would I want to complain that I am being persecuted for actively practicing my Christian religion in the public square and in government, whilst showing minority faiths absolute disrespect?

    Why would I want to believe that praying, church attendance, tithing, God's Grace or repentance have any substantial benefit in this world; when that time spent in church could be spent actually helping needy people? Or all that money given to churches and pastors/preachers living comfortable, posh lives in first-world countries could instead be given to the poor and the unfortunate?

    Why would I ever want to believe that humans have 'original sin'? Why I would I want to have no hope in humanity, or the goodness and kindness of people? Why would I want to believe that all the suffering, misery and hopelessness in the world is required by an (1) an uncaring deity or (2) a merciless entity out to test his creations by causing them pain; instead of believing that there is NO God, and that on account of this, there is actual hope for humanity to better itself and ease it's suffering?

    I wonder sometimes ...
    So, in other words, you're not a christian and you don't understand christianity or the Bible. You just wish to remain comfortable with your misunderstandings and rejection of belief. Fine by me, but then why go to all the trouble of trying to trot out quotes and passages you don't understand the context of, trying to convince yourself of something?

    You're not convincing us who are christians, we can see your error.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    Slander is a sin my friend. No less of a sin than homosexuality.
    You mean, bearing false witness? It is, but not even close to addressing the post you quoted.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    From some of the stories I have heard, many hetero boyscouts were quite willing and able to do some sexual "exploration" without any gays in the club.
    I'll say again:

    Young ones on the cusp of or into puberty are generally at the mercy of their hormones, their urges are strong and have not yet learned the control over their desires that adults [should] have. That's one of the reasons for adult supervision at these camps.

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