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Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220:563]

Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

You've just put words into my mouth..now you can report me for something I have never said..
Actually,no I didn't.I said you implied it.
Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online <---Learn how to use this also.

I'm not the only one who thinks that's exactly what you are implying.

Maybe you should learn how to communicate better.
 
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It was an honest question I asked you on my part also.
My avatar and the fact that I have mentioned the fact that I am black many times on this forum gives me reasonable right to ask that question.
You have displayed bigotry toward gays many,many,times on this forum,so it was not unreasonable of me to ask if you are bigoted toward black's also.

I wouldn't throw the word "paranoid" around so casually if I were you.

I was not being aggressive..I asked a simple question..and no..I will not buy your book..

My avatar is a wolf...(Hooooowl)

You are nuts..
 
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I have to agree with you on this one.

But that does not mean we here cannot criticize,condemn,make fun off,or laugh at that Pastor for doing what he did.
What we here cannot do is prevent that pastor from HAVING his beliefs and opinions.
Having beliefs and opinions does not automatically grant a person a ticker-tape parade and a rousing round of "huzzahs and he's a jolly good fellow"..

I am not saying people are not free to criticize, but this story will be repeated over and over and over again at churches all over the country as gay scouts pop out. My faith is about my relationship with God, not my church's guest policy. It is fairly obvious that the Bible does not rejoice homosexuality no matter how one wants to spin or equivocate about it politically. If people reject those doctrines or pretend the words are not there, then that is their right, but they are still part of the text underpinning the faith.
 
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So is the possibility of you molesting people.Or doing worse.
Humans are capable of practically anything.
No one here says you or anyone else here are doing it though.

wolfie isn't entirely offbase, nor are you. There's a reason we are told not to go grocery shopping when we're hungry - it affects our shopping. Young ones on the cusp of or into puberty are generally at the mercy of their hormones, their urges are strong and have not yet learned the control over their desires that adults [should] have. That's one of the reasons for adult supervision at these camps.

If anything is going to happen, it will happen because one is attracted to the other. That's not going to happen with a group of all heterosexual boys.
 
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So is the possibility of you molesting people.Or doing worse.
Humans are capable of practically anything.
No one here says you or anyone else here are doing it though.

I have never been put into a position where same sex people found me attractive...
 
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If that were my church I believe I'd find another one. But the wonderful thing about this country is that he has the right to do that. I won't go so far as to say what he is doing is not Christian though. I see a lot of people do that, many of which are not Christians themselves and so are throwing an uninformed opinion about what it means to be a Christian. For instance, many seem to believe that Christians are supposed to be pacifists which is not necessarily the case. Regardless, there as many flavors of Christianity and they each seem to have their own opinions on subjects such as this. I know, I know, but before anybody starts bashing the religion at large, lefts keep in mind how many different interpretations of the Constitution there are here, and that document is only a couple of hundred years old as opposed to how old biblical text is.

Anyway, my church is Pentecostal. My pastor refers to it as "Pentecostal with seatbelts" because we don't have people running up and down the aisles, flopping on the ground and playing with snakes and stuff. We do have one guy who will occasionally break out in tongues, but he's 84 years old and I'm not telling Marvin to knock it off. In fact we had been going to this church for nearly a year before we knew it was Pentecostal. We thought it was non denominational. Anyway, we don't have the same outlook on gay people. In fact there are an inordinately large number of them in our mission masters group, a 2 year resident college program. Evidently people think they can church the gay out of their kids. It doesn't work that way, and we love them anyway.

One of our executive pastor's daughters posted something interesting on Facebook about a month ago. It said "don't judge people because they sin differently than you do".

Amen ;)
 
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If the boy scouts were allowed to meet there before and now they are not because of gays being permitted to be in BSA then it is biased.

No different or more biased than hospitals that used to let people smoke on their premises no longer allowing them to. The owner of the property makes the rules for their guests. Don't like the rules--don't go there.
 
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I don't know. I don't care. It is their property to do with as they see fit. Have the Scout meeting at the Gay and Lesbian Center if they will let them for all I care. So sad the leftist cannot force the evil Christian Church to become secular Darwinist Societies :2bigcry:

Do you post anything that isn't a strawman these days?

It's their property, that's fine. But face a little truth here - this change in policy doesn't suddenly mean there will be gay scouts anymore than the previous ban meant that there were none. Obviously, this Pastor either lives in the dark or is extremely naive that he thinks it really changes anything.

He got good press from this, and I'm sure when he runs for Congress it'll help him secure the extreme right, or a few more hate-filled people will file into his pews.

So sad that the righties can't own the Scouts anymore :2bigcry:
 
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Do you post anything that isn't a strawman these days?

It's their property, that's fine. But face a little truth here - this change in policy doesn't suddenly mean there will be gay scouts anymore than the previous ban meant that there were none. Obviously, this Pastor either lives in the dark or is extremely naive that he thinks it really changes anything.

He got good press from this, and I'm sure when he runs for Congress it'll help him secure the extreme right, or a few more hate-filled people will file into his pews.

So sad that the righties can't own the Scouts anymore :2bigcry:

I could give a crap about the scouts. All the ones I ever knew were losers so you can have them--gay, straight, black or white
 
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Well, it's a church, for God's sake. They are no more obligated to let someone, with whom they disagree ideologically, use their facilities, than you and I are, to let a racist homophobe use our homes for their own purposes. Freedom of speech and association and all.

This thread isn't about whether to take any of their rights away. It is about whether to consider the pastor a jerk, which is obviously a separate issue. And, he is in fact a jerk. Just because he has a right to be a jerk doesn't mean he needs to go ahead and be one.
 
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You've just put words into my mouth..now you can report me for something I have never said..

Oh please. That's precisely the gist of your comments. How delicious the irony that you wouldn't have the stones to admit it?
 
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Congrats btw, is this your first?

Yes it is.I have a booklet that I sell at my restaurants,but this will be my first real one.It will be filled with Creole recipes both traditional and contemporary,plus funny anecdotes about my years in the business.
 
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Oh please. That's precisely the gist of your comments. How delicious the irony that you wouldn't have the stones to admit it?

Is ''irony'' the word of the day??
 
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What.a.jerk.

No the pastor is a shepard to his flock and is required not to allow groups that are counter to the church purposes to use the church faciltes.

And absolutely no one cared what some bigot pastor had to say.

Except the congregation members, of course.

The BSA are not a religious organization. I'm sure other groups would be permitted to use the church. I think this is out and out descrimination.

The church is and that is the point. And yes the church discriminates against sin.

Bigotry's acceptable if a church does it? What are the odds it's the individual's decision, and not that of his "organisation"?

He would likely have had to run this with the church elders first for a policy decision.

A Christian Church at that. Obviously they have their own take on what that truly means. There's a word for this...

Being aginst sin?

Well, so far, it is their right. It's also my right to think they're jerks.

If this Baptist church interprets through its faith that it's just fine to discriminate against people based upon sexual discrimination/gay rights discrimination or anything else? They are poor examples of the Christian faith, in my opinion.

If they believe homosexuality in thought, word and deed is a sin then they would be poor expmples of Christian faith if they hosted an orginiztion that would accept homosexuality in its members as some kind of social norm.
 
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Yes it is.I have a booklet that I sell at my restaurants,but this will be my first real one.It will be filled with Creole recipes both traditional and contemporary,plus funny anecdotes about my years in the business.

Well I can't come to your restaurant...

parlez-vous français?

Conard!!
 
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I support the decision made by the Boy Scouts, but I also support the decision made by this pastor and his church. I'm not religious, but I'm sick of society expecting people of faith to cheer on their politically correct decisions to the detriment of their church teachings.

Why is it that people on the left love to throw out the "very Christian" bullsh*t when people of faith support the teachings of their church rather than support the secular political correctness of those who don't give a damn about Christian faith?

As a matter of fact, what the pastor did was indeed very Christian - his faith would teach him that while he can support and love the "sinner", he should not support and love the sin. By providing a continued venue for the Boy Scouts to meet, he would be tacitly supporting their political decision - and you can see from his words the very Christian dilema that placed him in.

There should be lots of other places where the Boy Scouts should be able to meet in Helena, Alabama - places where others don't have to compromise their faith and principles to accommodate others.

Maybe those who are always saying Muslims are peace loving and accepting could suggest the boy scouts congregate at the local Islamic mosque in Helena - good luck with that.
 
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I never said attack or rape anyone..for me as a female it would be like sharing a bedroom with a predatory male..

For a heterosexual male..it must be worse!!

Why would they be a "predatory" male? Or are you suggesting Males in general are "Predatory?"

Nope..i'm implying that the guy in the next bunk to you..may find you sexually attractive!!

So are you suggesting that a guy should sleep with one eye open if he's in the room with a female, because the female may find them sexually attractiev and thus may become a "predatory" female?
 
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No the pastor is a shepard to his flock and is required not to allow groups that are counter to the church purposes to use the church faciltes.

Jesus hung out with the sinners
 
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I have never been put into a position where same sex people found me attractive...

You don't get out much,do you?
If you behave toward gay people in real life like you do toward them here,I'm not surprised that lesbians wouldn't find you attractive.
And not to be mean,but there may be heterosexual men who wouldn't find you or your attitude attractive.

As a restaurant owner,I have to deal with people all the time. I've done hosting and been a maitre d' for years beside being a chef.
Customers like it when the guy who's name is on the sign out front comes to their table,asks them how their meal was,and interacts with them.
Makes them feel special.
My wife was coming to my restaurant before we were even dating.
Used to come to her table and talk with her all the time.

There are plenty of gay waiters,chefs,and restaurant owners that are gay.
If any of them find me attractive,it does not bother me,nor does it offend me.
I'm a happily married man with a fantastic loving wife.
 
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Yes it is.I have a booklet that I sell at my restaurants,but this will be my first real one.It will be filled with Creole recipes both traditional and contemporary,plus funny anecdotes about my years in the business.

Very cool, much success!
 
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Why would they be a "predatory" male? Or are you suggesting Males in general are "Predatory?"



So are you suggesting that a guy should sleep with one eye open if he's in the room with a female, because the female may find them sexually attractiev and thus may become a "predatory" female?

I don't think most men would have a problem with that..it would be unwanted sexual advances from members of the same sex...
 
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You don't get out much,do you?
If you behave toward gay people in real life like you do toward them here,I'm not surprised that lesbians wouldn't find you attractive.
And not to be mean,but there may be heterosexual men who wouldn't find you or your attitude attractive.

As a restaurant owner,I have to deal with people all the time. I've done hosting and been a maitre d' for years beside being a chef.
Customers like it when the guy who's name is on the sign out front comes to their table,asks them how their meal was,and interacts with them.
Makes them feel special.
My wife was coming to my restaurant before we were even dating.
Used to come to her table and talk with her all the time.

There are plenty of gay waiters,chefs,and restaurant owners that are gay.
If any of them find me attractive,it does not bother me,nor does it offend me.
I'm a happily married man with a fantastic loving wife.

Great..

Not just up your own ass then??
 
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And not to be mean,but there may be heterosexual men who wouldn't find you or your attitude attractive.

that would be me
 
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I don't think most men would have a problem with that..it would be unwanted sexual advances from members of the same sex...

Oh? So "most" men in your mind would be fine with any "female predator" groping them in the night? And thus that's okay?

So some ass ugly girl in the class that smells of BO and is massively unpopular....they'd want that "Sexual advance"? Or should they "sleep with one eye open" if a gay guy or the ass ugly girl in class that smells of BO and is massively unpopular is sleeping in the same room?

I'm just trying to figure out what exactly in your logic constitutes an individual that will magically become "predatory" and that an individual should be fearful of becoming "predatory".

So far women should be fearful of men becoming "predatory" men. Men should be fearful of homosexual men becoming "predatory" men. And men should be a-okay with women becoming "predatory" women? Is that about where we're at with you?
 
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