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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, they're not letting the hated sinners in



    From Matthew 5
    I think I began this with the fact that I am not a practitioner of that particular faith...so your quoting of their text, pretty sure pretty much out of context, does not impact me too too much...but maybe it will resonate with others out there...

    The fact of the matter is, I am sure they will let any, and all, of the sinners in...any and all that so desire may attend any church service they may want, if one really wants in...so they [the individual members of the Boy Scouts ] surely will be allowed in, especially if they want to work on recovering from a deviant path upon which they have been led or which they have on their own embarked...

    But i am sure the various sincerely pious churches, if they are faced with just a forced stumbling down a path under which they have no control, faced with an organization that no longer means what it was originally meant to stand for, no longer upholds the faith... what faith based organization in their right mind would want let in this whole nasty can of worms, with law suits no doubt in the future when things start to get more and more wild, less and less godly, who of the prudent and holy would make that irrational decision to allow this trojan horse in the back door much less the front...

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    RE: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220]

    Wow, bigotry has become a cardinal sin, I see
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    RE: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220]

    Below is an example of everything for which the anti-religious condemn Christians. Pot, meet kettle.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    1) I have already explained that it is stupid to stand up for one's beliefs when those beliefs are stupid

    2) It is always smart for someone who believes in something stupid to "give in" and admit that their beliefs were stupid.
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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm fine with anyone disagreeing so long as they have a logical, rational, evidence-based reason to do so. When it's morons talking to an imaginary friend in the sky as their only explanation for why they hate others, that's none of the above.
    So you are "one of those" that does not, deep down, really want to believe in the wind and air, since you cannot see or truly understand them, eh? Or electricity, or gravity... your logic of how all this, everything we know and can think of, came about? You have no logic for that, so we all start at the same base of not knowing. Your side goes off on your own "silly" path, and we go ours. What makes yours better? Nothing, absolutely nothing...

    An arrogant dismissal hardly looks clever... maybe that "big bang" will eventually go off in that nascent mind... and hopefully one will "get it" in less time than it takes a rock to evolve to the point to where it can decide it wants to live... and somehow figures out how to create DNA so it can turn into a living one celled creature that, fun fun, ends up dying...

    Just how logical is that? Time to call Bill Nye, the science guy, for he surely has the answer, huh? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, too too funny ...

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220]

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Not everyone broadcasts it. Sometimes people just find out. I think boyscouts should have NOTHING to do with sexual preference one way or the other. And that making a rule allowing or disallowing gays is preposterous. But sometimes people will find out and to disallow someone after it is known is cold blooded even if you personally may think its wrong.
    We agree on there being no need to make an open declaration of sexual preference, it is unnecessary and should not even be a consideration in this organization that has nothing to do, or shouldn't, with anybody being sexual or not. I would even go as far as to say that anybody, especially the underaged, that wanted to openly declare such, hetero or homosexual, should not be allowed in since that is not a part of, and in fact detracts from, the mission of the Boy Scouts.

    That these kids who, ostensibly, only want to be out of doors, learn skills, enjoy simple and wholesome camaraderie... and that these agenda driven others would turn this into a fight over sexuality...just so they can either make sure it is known they are allowed in, are getting in... either that or to destroy what has been, in the past, a character building and generally good organization... shameful.

    And as regards disallowing a practice considered not only a sin to most, but is simply a deviant lifestyle that quite possibly is a nurtured not a natural trait, the exclusion of those that so practice, that is totally within the purview of assembling with those only of your own choice, first amendment right [freedom or assembly], remember. And I would say anyone, homo or hertero, who is already "practicing" would not be, or maybe rather should not be, in compliance with the standards, not comporting with the behavior being promoted within such an upstanding organization.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220]

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Not everyone broadcasts it. Sometimes people just find out. I think boyscouts should have NOTHING to do with sexual preference one way or the other. And that making a rule allowing or disallowing gays is preposterous. But sometimes people will find out and to disallow someone after it is known is cold blooded even if you personally may think its wrong.
    We agree on there being no need to make declaration of sexual preference, it is unnecessary and should not even be a consideration in this organization that has nothing to do, or shouldn't, with anybody being sexual or not. I would even go as far as to say that anybody, especially the underaged, that wanted to openly declare such, hetero or homosexual, should not be allowed in since that is not a part of the mission of the Boy Scouts.

    That these kids who, ostensibly, only want to be out of doors, learn skills, enjoy simple and wholesome camaraderie... and that others would turn this into a fight over sexuality...just so they can either make sure it is known they are allowed in, are getting in... either that or to destroy what has been, in the past, a character building and generally good organization... shameful.

    And as regards disallowing a practice considered not only a sin to most, but is simply a deviant lifestyle that is quite possibly a nurtured and not a natural trait, that is totally within our purview of assembling with those only of our own choice, first amendment right [freedom or assembly], right? I would say more, that anyone, homo or hertero, who is already "practicing" would not be, or maybe rather should not be, considered in compliance with the standards, not comporting with the behavior being promoted within such an upstanding organization...not admitted or deciding, of their own volition by so openly declaring, to step out of the organization... we should be teaching how to do so gracefully rather than promote cash cows for lawyers...
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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    The boyscouts haven't promoted sin, embraced it, or had no desire to see it change. If you had been keeping up with the news, they were dragged into tolerance kicking and screaming.

    Chances are there are no homosexuals in this pastor's local boy scout group, he just wants to make a political statement. If he were out banning people and organizations that commit any sin, then I would understand. At least he'd be consistent. Instead he's simply picked out homosexuality as a "worse" sin than the others, and has ignored his own sin and the sins of his congregation.
    You know the left would go haywire if the pastor let them come on the condition that he seek to straighten out the gay members, despite the church looking at it as discouraging sin.
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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I dont hate the guy and I tolerate him as proven by my previous posts. Try again plz? (I am disgusted but I don't hate "them")

    You simply assume I hate.
    Mrr-Wbst---Hate: 1. a : intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury
    b : extreme dislike or antipathy : loathing <had a great hate of hard work> 2. : an object of hatred <a generation whose finest hate had been big business — F. L. Paxson>

    We could quibble, but my estimation of just how much of that definition of which you fulfill in spirit? At minimum, easily the preponderance. Surely having realized that tipping point towards being hate... to me anyhow.

    We differ in perspectives of what, precisely,is your true perspective. I think you declare yourself tolerant, but act in a contradictory fashion.

    With the current, ongoing and growing intolerance shown on the other side, original tolerance from this side is tumbling on a bridge collapsed. Got that last train through safely… but one might be cautioned 'til ya rebuild that bridge.

    Should one not look ahead, see which way that steam engine’s” smoke” is blowing? Take note that the bridge is out? Study the lessons of history, perhaps, understand the odds…

    Caution! Potential speed bumps ahead…oops, I mean, bridge is out...

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    This is so unbelievably correct. Well said.
    Ignorant babble, far from correct.

    it's like saying Jesus would have had no problem running a "swingers" resort out in back of the temple because he scared off some people planning to stone an adulterer.

    So you go ahead and tell me how churches directly enable envy, gluttony, etc. Let's hear it.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220]

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    If they are saying "Get out of my church!".... I guess they love them? Or do you cast your enemies to oblivion and beyond to never see them again? Just because I said I hope the bigots stay secluded doesn't mean I hate them. Im not the one enforcing the rules. I just hope it happens to end up that way without me interfering at all. This isnt my battle except for the part where I argue on the internet in this case.
    Now contrast that "Get out of my church!" with the pastor, had he said something about the Boy Scouts like,

    “with that said **** “ them." And maybe if the pastor had added something else, something to this effect: I hope all those that are reasonable in the “community” leaves them so they can have a hateful gay bigotry party in seclusion without attempting to indoctrinate all us wholesomely decent humans.

    Would the pastor then have gone over the line,gone maybe a bit too far, might be considered to have achieved hateful? Might, maybe, would it then be considered hateful? BTW, not loving them cannot be considered to equate with hating them, not to a reasonable mind anyhow.
    As you probably are aware, that above couple of statements is pretty much a paraphrase of what you said about the pastor and his congregation in your first post that I responded to.

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