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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    What's wrong with it? I see no problem with a church not allowing another group that has disagreements with them using their building.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Well, I must say...very creative response. You came up with: "Ja, mein Führer"...or more along the lines of "Da, comrade Removable"?... in less than 30 minutes. Now that's not boring at all. But you're dragging a bit with "wonderful social order where everyone and everything is, by social mandate, the exact same..."

    I'm forced to say that your ending words, "chaos...and way way way boring..." isn't becoming at all.
    For some, Hitler is involved in everything

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061866750
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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Wow! That was pretty close to incomprehensible, with all those aborted clauses and inappropriate commas, which I suspect are supposed to be periods.
    Note how this poster starts with an attack on what is pertinent in this debate, my points, right? No? What an anomaly...right? NOooooooOOOOOooo. Not hardly, ha ha.



    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The fact that you self-identified (I'm assuming that you're referring to your belief in God's existence), and if that matters to me, is obviously of some "concern" to at least one poster. If it weren't, you wouldn't have asked for my opinion about the issue.
    Hey, I must not have been that incomprehensible if you were able to accurately assume I was referring to my belief in the existence of a creator. What exactly were the other options available to you with all your assumptive powers?

    Actually I am only "using" you as a vehicle to make my points... I am debating the idea and so you post, I respond, though I am not always just talking to you, sangha... no offense...

    And here is what I was actually asking your opinion about, that which you conveniently left out of your quote of my quote, "what is it that you believe that they believe that is "stupid"?...and then the follow up, as to what you think is smart about the view of the opposing side...





    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You seem to think I have objected to your "self-identification". I have not.
    So, remind me who is the incomprehensible one again, then? Here is the quote of what you said...

    "I don't know where you got the idea that whether or not a creator exists is a matter of debate in this thread."

    Seems to me that, your view on whether or not I believed or not, as brought up in this thread, did not meet your standards of some sort...I have no idea why you took that extraneous point of me setting a baseline, as being something that just did not need be done here in the thread...so yeah, extraneous ...and yet that is what you focused on?

    Anomaly? Again, no.




    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It seems that you think my first response to you in this thread was a comment about you. It wasn't. It was about the preacher.
    Again, this is what you said,

    "I don't know where you got the idea that whether or not a creator exists is a matter of debate in this thread."

    That was was not directed at me? This, as you allude below, is about the pastor Greg? So whether a pastor believes in the existence of God, and then is making a decision about whether, if he does genuinely desire to follow those beliefs, that he should follow his God's written guidance on a matter, that is what you were trying to say with that line to me quoted above?

    I do not believe you in either case. I believe I was correct in my first assumption.



    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You remember the preacher, right? He's one of the subjects of this thread
    yeah yeah yeah.

    To make it a little easier for you to decipher my byzantine attempt to elicit a response from you on something pertinent....

    Questions:

    1. What is it that you believe that they believe that is "stupid"?

    and...

    2. What you think is smart about the view of the opposing side?


    Just so you do not continue to avoid the pertinent while making a big deal of the extraneous...

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    For some, Hitler is involved in everything

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061866750
    Uh, Sangha...did Hitler "legally" murder Jews...or is it possible that it just took the rest of the world several years to bring down a mass murdering, psychopath war criminal?

    I think that whats-his-name is a bit confused...???

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Note how this poster starts with an attack on what is pertinent in this debate, my points, right? No? What an anomaly...right? NOooooooOOOOOooo. Not hardly, ha ha.



    Hey, I must not have been that incomprehensible if you were able to accurately assume I was referring to my belief in the existence of a creator. What exactly were the other options available to you with all your assumptive powers?
    I didn't say it was incomprehensible. I said "close to incomprehensible"

    Actually I am only "using" you as a vehicle to make my points... I am debating the idea and so you post, I respond, though I am not always just talking to you, sangha... no offense...

    And here is what I was actually asking your opinion about, that which you conveniently left out of your quote of my quote, "what is it that you believe that they believe that is "stupid"?...and then the follow up, as to what you think is smart about the view of the opposing side...
    I have no idea who your "they" refers to. My first response to you referred to the pastor, and "he" is not a "they"




    So, remind me who is the incomprehensible one again, then? Here is the quote of what you said...

    "I don't know where you got the idea that whether or not a creator exists is a matter of debate in this thread."

    Seems to me that, your view on whether or not I believed or not, as brought up in this thread, did not meet your standards of some sort...I have no idea why you took that extraneous point of me setting a baseline, as being something that just did not need be done here in the thread...so yeah, extraneous ...and yet that is what you focused on?

    Anomaly? Again, no.






    Again, this is what you said,

    "I don't know where you got the idea that whether or not a creator exists is a matter of debate in this thread."

    That was was not directed at me? This, as you allude below, is about the pastor Greg? So whether a pastor believes in the existence of God, and then is making a decision about whether, if he does genuinely desire to follow those beliefs, that he should follow his God's written guidance on a matter, that is what you were trying to say with that line to me quoted above?

    I do not believe you in either case. I believe I was correct in my first assumption.
    My "first response to you in this thread" was not the post you just quoted. Here's the post I was referring to:

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It does if "what you actually believe" is something stupid
    The "you" in that post refers to the preacher.



    yeah yeah yeah.

    To make it a little easier for you to decipher my byzantine attempt to elicit a response from you on something pertinent....

    Questions:

    1. What is it that you believe that they believe that is "stupid"?

    and...

    2. What you think is smart about the view of the opposing side?


    Just so you do not continue to avoid the pertinent while making a big deal of the extraneous...
    Again, I have no idea who your "they" is referring to.
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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Well, I must say...very creative response. You came up with: "Ja, mein Führer"...or more along the lines of "Da, comrade Removable"?... in less than 30 minutes. Now that's not boring at all. But you're dragging a bit with "wonderful social order where everyone and everything is, by social mandate, the exact same..."

    I'm forced to say that your ending words, "chaos...and way way way boring..." isn't becoming at all.
    Awwww....I would say sorry, but have not gotten my orders from headquarters yet...so stay tuned in this brave new world that you folks leaning more left are just making bigger, less diverse, more cumbersome and, as stated previously, way way way more boring...

    PS #2 Awww... would say sorry [can't yet, see above] about not getting back to you earlier, but really, all minutes are just the same as other minutes, right? So one minute or 30 minutes are just 30 same boring minutes, isn't that the way you are angling us towards?

    My focus is not always here, by the way... I do have some other just as "exciting" things going on simultaneously....

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    For some, Hitler is involved in everything

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061866750
    Oh you are on the right track, but just have not picked up on all the little bread crumbs I spread so thoroughly for you, hungry sangha, to lead you to the concept, not of Hitler, but along with those myriad other "hints" I left you with regards to the Stalin and Mao style, the idea of all of us being led towards a statism, where the state/government becomes our forced religion... that we are all made to follow, the state religion being the worship of the state itself.

    So, guessing you cannot see the Stalinist/Maoist statist forest for all the Hitler trees in the way, blinding you, apparently.

    Where is Sherlock Holmes when you need him, huh?

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Oh you are on the right track, but just have not picked up on all the little bread crumbs I spread so thoroughly for you, hungry sangha, to lead you to the concept, not of Hitler, but along with those myriad other "hints" I left you with regards to the Stalin and Mao style, the idea of all of us being led towards a statism, where the state/government becomes our forced religion... that we are all made to follow, the state religion being the worship of the state itself.

    So, guessing you cannot see the Stalinist/Maoist statist forest for all the Hitler trees in the way, blinding you, apparently.

    Where is Sherlock Holmes when you need him, huh?
    I regret to inform you that Sherlock Holmes is in on the Statist Plot.
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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    some people claim muslims have no tolerance for gays

    l wonder if they see these threads
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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I didn't say it was incomprehensible. I said "close to incomprehensible"



    I have no idea who your "they" refers to. My first response to you referred to the pastor, and "he" is not a "they"






    My "first response to you in this thread" was not the post you just quoted. Here's the post I was referring to:



    The "you" in that post refers to the preacher.





    Again, I have no idea who your "they" is referring to.
    I ignore the heavy fertilizer spread all over the top there [ nothing is growing so maybe you could work on weeding some of the extraneous out? Just a suggestion as I am not going for your avoidance maneuvers any longer].

    If you read the original post setting up this thread, it included this link here Pastor says Boy Scouts can no longer meet at his church

    And should you read that, you will see that it starts out with this line, "Some local churches say they will no longer allow Boy Scout troops to meet on their campuses after the Boy Scouts of America voted to allow openly gay scout members. "

    You see, as the article puts it, "First Baptist Church of Helena Pastor Greg Walker is one of the church leaders unhappy with the decision to allow openly gay scouts.

    Get who the they are now? [ Besides, you didn't think I would not notice that you were imprecise when you, sangha, used "you" to mean "he" or "him" as regards the pastor? And yet you take the time to criticize my "they", which is actually more correct in the actual context of what is being discussed in the thread, rather than "he". How ironic huh?]

    But to make it even more obvious and in terms you might be able to grasp to some extent.

    Questions:

    1. What is it that you believe that he, the pastor, [ and they, the other churches ] believe that is "stupid"?

    and...

    2. What you, sangha, think is smart about the view of the opposing side?

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