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Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220:563]

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Gaugingcatenate said:
Didn't do anything remotely of the sort, but its cool... besides which, the countered, actually valid question: you think denying the truth to be the smarter move, do you?
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Can you demonstrate, via objective evidence, that you have the "truth"? Didn't think so.
 
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Absence of strong female characters in the NT? Not so much. Mirriam, Sarah, Ruth, Hagar, Esther, the list is long. ALL strong female characters.

And thanks, but my research long predates this discussion.

You said there was no archelogical evidence of the plagues whatsoever. Not you're saying there is no evidence those plagues were divine in origin. That's a significant move in goalposts.

Now, consider that Pharoahs pretty effectively erased narratives that didn't fit their own ruling story, why would you assume that archeological evidence would be available several thousand years after the fact? The entire reign of a couple pharoahs was nearly completely erased from the archeological record by the ones that came after.
 
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I think there is enough historical evidence to postulate that the whole Jesus story was fabricated in the early 2nd century AD and then backdated to make it appear as if it occurred prior to the Jewish Wars.......................
 
Bonzai said:
I think there is enough historical evidence to postulate that the whole Jesus story was fabricated in the early 2nd century AD and then backdated to make it appear as if it occurred prior to the Jewish Wars.......................
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Head back to the research, your first pass was inadequate. You can begin with the dating of the Dead Sea scrolls (66-70 AD).
 
clownboy said:
Head back to the research, your first pass was inadequate. You can begin with the dating of the Dead Sea scrolls (66-70 AD).
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The "Dead Sea Scrolls" and most subsequent "archeology" in Israel has been on the level of Biskupiec.........Look it up......................
 
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clownboy said:
Absence of strong female characters in the NT? Not so much. Mirriam, Sarah, Ruth, Hagar, Esther, the list is long. ALL strong female characters.
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Those are OT characters, no?
 
Bonzai said:
The "Dead Sea Scrolls" and most subsequent "archeology" in Israel has been on the level of Biskupiec.........Look it up......................
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The scrolls were held and studied in JORDAN after their discovery until 1967, and then Israel. Since the 90s American universtities have had free access to them. The dating of the scrolls is not in scientific controversy.
 
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sangha said:
Those are OT characters, no?
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Yes, they are. For the NT start with the Mother Mary. And in certain churches and certain bibles Mary Magdalene. There's Priscilla, the daughters of lot, the four daughters of the prophet Philip, Phoebe and Junia.
 
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clownboy said:
The scrolls were held and studied in JORDAN after their discovery until 1967, and then Israel. Since the 90s American universtities have had free access to them. The dating of the scrolls is not in scientific controversy.
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The idea of a radical rabbi preaching to the hordes of pork scarfing goyim is blatantly a very late historical fabrication..............
 
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Cephus said:
Can you demonstrate, via objective evidence, that you have the "truth"? Didn't think so.
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You mean with regards to the matter of which we were discussing? Yes, I absolutely have the truth on that. I have the truth, verified by the fact that we all concede that none of us have any real idea as to the verifiable origins of everything... nobody...

Pretty objective, wouldn't you say? But, what the heck... go ahead, prove me wrong, using science of course, I will accept nothing less, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa
 
Bonzai said:
The idea of a radical rabbi preaching to the hordes of pork scarfing goyim is blatantly a very late historical fabrication..............
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Huh? What are you talking about?
 
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clownboy said:
My mistake.
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Ironic given your attempt to discount brothern's opinion

clownboy said:
So, in other words, you're not a christian and you don't understand christianity or the Bible. You just wish to remain comfortable with your misunderstandings and rejection of belief. Fine by me, but then why go to all the trouble of trying to trot out quotes and passages you don't understand the context of, trying to convince yourself of something?

You're not convincing us who are christians, we can see your error.
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sangha said:
Ironic given your attempt to discount brothern's opinion
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I've caught you in hyopocrisy in so many threads, now you want to return the favor? Swing and miss. I've provided strong female characters from the NT as well.
 
clownboy said:
Huh? What are you talking about?
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Your ignorance of Jewish history is showing: The Jewish Wars were a veritable race war against the Greeks and Italians, not a struggle for "independence" as fabricated by American Christians. Jesus Christ isn't mentioned in any undoctored historical records because Jesus Christ never existed. The "persecution" of the Christians, which make up the Hagiography of the late Roman Christian church are in reality just a fanciful record of the Pagans attempting to deal with a Night of The Living Dead...........................
 
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clownboy said:
I've caught you in hyopocrisy in so many threads, now you want to return the favor? Swing and miss. I've provided strong female characters from the NT as well.
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Irony <> hypocrisy

Try addressing what I said. Accusing me of doing something wrong "somewhere" isn't going to hide the fact of what you tried to do (and failed)
 
Bonzai said:
Your ignorance of Jewish history is showing: The Jewish Wars were a veritable race war against the Greeks and Italians, not a struggle for "independence" as fabricated by American Christians. Jesus Christ isn't mentioned in any undoctored historical records because Jesus Christ never existed. The "persecution" of the Christians, which make up the Hagiography of the late Roman Christian church are in reality just a fanciful record of the Pagans attempting to deal with a Night of The Living Dead...........................
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How is a rebellion against Pagan Roman tyranny a "race war"?

Every nation occupied and under the heel of Rome should have and had the right to rebel.
 
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clownboy said:
Yes, they are. For the NT start with the Mother Mary. And in certain churches and certain bibles Mary Magdalene. There's Priscilla, the daughters of lot, the four daughters of the prophet Philip, Phoebe and Junia.
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Umm, Lot is OT. Mary is not a good example of Christianity speaking well of a female, and the other characters are minor.
 
Kanstantine said:
How is a rebellion against Pagan Roman tyranny a "race war"?

Every nation occupied and under the heel of Rome should have and had the right to rebel.
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There was no Roman tyranny. That is just a fabrication of Christian propagandists. That "tyranny" involved, if you read between the lines, legalized abortion and gay people not being subject to the death penalty. If you're a "liberal" who buys into Christian spew, well, then you're really a conservative.........................
 
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sangha said:
Irony <> hypocrisy

Try addressing what I said. Accusing me of doing something wrong "somewhere" isn't going to hide the fact of what you tried to do (and failed)
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Nonsense, I didn't "try" to do anything, I made a mistake and owned up to it as soon as you called it to my attention. I then went on to provide (with the exception of Lot's daughters) the correct list off the top of my head.

These are NOT minor characters btw, but powerful women, seen as powerful in their own day.
 
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Cephus said:
That's what happens when you try to talk about reality with the delusional.
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If they are delusional then what does it matter if they ban the Boy Scouts from their midst?
 
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clownboy said:
Nonsense, I dfidn't "try" to do anything, I made a mistake and owned up to it as soon as you called it to my attention. I then went on to provide (with the exception of Lot's daughters) the correct list off the top of my head.

These are NOT minor characters btw, but powerful women, seen as powerful in their own day.
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There's just a couple of problems with your post

First off, your examples were not "correct". Secondly, they do not refute brothern's claim about how the NT portrays women

But most importantly, the fact is that you tried (and failed) to dismiss brothern's opinions because you claimed he did not know about Christianity, and then you (mistakenly) pointed to a statement of his as proof of his misunderstanding (even though you misunderstood his remark). Then, to make matters worse, you have posted "facts" about the Bible that are untrue.

And now, you continue to dodge the irony of your attempt to show that brothern made a mistake about Christianity while making mistaken claims about the Bible.
 
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Shadow Serious said:
If they are delusional then what does it matter if they ban the Boy Scouts from their midst?
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It doesn't. What matters is that they are beaten back into the darkness from which they came..........................
 
Bonzai said:
There was no Roman tyranny. That is just a fabrication of Christian propagandists. That "tyranny" involved, if you read between the lines, legalized abortion and gay people not being subject to the death penalty. If you're a "liberal" who buys into Christian spew, well, then you're really a conservative.........................
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Interesing how you are an apologist and denier of Roman tyranny.

Are you a denier of any other significant historical events, say ones that occured during the last century?
 
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