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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    In the eyes of god, they are equal. In the eyes of the law and our society, they are vastly different. One is a violent crime with a victim, and one isn't.
    The pastor isn't breaking the law, he's "simply giving himself an opportunity to preach to them" - so if he wants to be a REAL Christian, he should let NAMBLA hold meetings at the church, right?

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

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    It is a sin to lie
    That is doctrinally wrong. It is not a sin to lie to someone that would harm another is asked for their location. That said what i said is not a lie.


    BSA has made no statement that could be reasonably interpreted to mean that they think "homosexuality is not wrong" or that it is not a sin
    The position that the BSA clearlly indicates that homosexuality is normal and thus countances it. That is the issue. Since they do so, so the pastor is required remove support the church had given it.
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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    That is doctrinally wrong. It is not a sin to lie to someone that would harm another is asked for their location. That said what i said is not a lie.




    The position that the BSA clearlly indicates that homosexuality is normal and thus countances it. That is the issue. Since they do so, so the pastor is required remove support the church had given it.
    Your claims about BSA are harmful to BSA and their members, and their position says nothing about homosexuality being normal.

    They accept people with cleft palates. That doesn't mean they think cleft palates are normal.

    It is a sin to lie

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    The pastor isn't breaking the law, he's "simply giving himself an opportunity to preach to them" - so if he wants to be a REAL Christian, he should let NAMBLA hold meetings at the church, right?
    The boyscouts aren't oriented around sin, they simply decided to allow homosexuals in, who are sinners, just like every human being.

    NAMBLA the organization is oriented completely around sin. That's the difference.

    For instance:
    - A cookie baking club that happens to allow sinners to join (we're all sinners)
    vs
    - A pornography club

    Every person in that church is a sinner, therefore his church is equally as guilty as the boyscouts.

    It's like the church allowed the cookie baking club for decades to use the church facilities, but as soon as the club allowed homosexuals, they were banned from the premises. The cookie baking club from its inception was composed 100% entirely of sinners. What changed?

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You've quoted one verse over and over again "Sin no more", yet you haven't once shown how not-discriminating is condoning sin or is a sin itself. The fact is, christians have chosen homosexuality to be a worse sin, while they tolerate and ignore their own sins.

    I'd like to see christians persecuting masturbaters and gluttons with the same passion they persecute homosexuals. Hell, homosexuality isn't even one of the seven deadly sins, and gluttony is. Why have we seen no churches kicking out fat people? Apparently according to you, all churches who allow fat people in their church are equal to the boyscouts. This is of course ignoring the fact that simply being human is a sin.
    There ya go. Its all about what YOU want. Thats what drives this train.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Think prostitute. It's not like they would be humping in church.. Honestly.
    Think 'sin'. He didnt declare dont do it here, or dont do it there, he said go forth...and sin NO MORE. Pretty damning of the SIN, while still loving of the sinner.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Well you'd be wrong. Although some of what you're saying applies. For me however, the CC's criminal cover up of rampant sexual crimes against young children is unconscionable. Add that to their subsequent convenient bankruptcy filings and the hypocrisy is beyond the pale for me.

    The BSA has their own issue with that also. They need to come clean with that and the offenders prosecuted.
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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And absolutely no one cared what some bigot pastor had to say.
    In states like Alabama, bigot pastors and rush limbaugh are the Messiahs.

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    Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    In states like Alabama, bigot pastors and rush limbaugh are the Messiahs.
    Just curious, have you ever lived there for any length of time?

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