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Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker[W:220:563]

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fmw said:
Why are we going over the same thing again. I said it is a mystery.
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Now, hands down, just a downright classic response.

Efficient...well, except for the first sentence...but... With one, two,...six words achieving not only not answering...shrewd if unnoticed, but...

... here might just be the gem, the real gem... the answer is...drum roll please...

ittsa mm mmmm mmmmmmystery....

Classic. Two too Classic.
Toooo, highstepping at its most efficient...at its most thick.

So its a mystery even to the science guys, ...and yet... "they" with absolute [ envision many the righteous finger wagged ] certainty... have ruled out ... well, you know...

Sound much like scientific method to anybody else?
I will give you this, difficult to debate the other side's , "alls-a-mystery" catch all. Unless, well unless you were already arguing that nobody knows... so if nobody knows... well, as everything outside of what you know would then fall in the category of belief.

Put it this way...

Fortunately, I am arguing that nobody really knows


fmw said:
Sorry, that was just too jumbled for me to understand. I'm sure you're right. Good day.
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Not sincerely convinced that I tried every single way to help, hand delivering to you the opportunity of understanding, but it was several tries, nonetheless, from succinct to, apparently, jumbled... several, maybe even lengthy, gave you my best shot, bubba... but one is drawn to wonder... wonder the diagnosis. Simple capacity problem, an obstanance factor, combo..? Only one, his doctor, maybe his hairstylist may ever really know.

Thanks for that support there at the end ...
Just kidding, calm down...
 
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As has been mentioned many times thus far, the beliefs about homosexuality and how to deal with the sin vary from church to church, sect to sect. The paster isn't going to make a call like this that is odds with that church's flavour. If the pastor believes this action is most consistent with the teachings of Christ and the Bible, chances are very good his flock does as well.

Think of it the way the SCOTUS thinks of pornography - what is and what is not is decided by community standards.
 
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apdst said:
Does your bigotry have a point?
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Oh! We're not done yet! The Bible says homosexuality is a sin ... and I truly believe it, to the bottom of my heart. Thus I treat all of my peers with disdain, disrespect and try to save them from this horrible lifestyle choice with JESUS! It's extra difficult to have FAITH IN JESUS in this world, when you think that gays are sinners and are going to burn in hell! I cannot believe how much pointless bigotry is leveled against me when I have nothing but the absolute disdain for the rights and liberty of others.

Come on! Let's have another rousing sing song, apdst! You can use your Bible quotes extra well in this song!!

 
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If this is what they call "Christian love", I'm scared to see what "Christian hatred" looks like.
 
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apdst said:
Does your bigotry have a point?
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No, it's obvious it doesn't, just a self-confirmation for the poster that their bigotry is okay.
 
Kanstantine said:
If this is what they call "Christian love", I'm scared to see what "Christian hatred" looks like.
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Well then, avoid christians and don't become one yourself. No one is asking you to attend church. There are plenty of places all around this large country where you can go to live among those of like mind.

I have a sign on my door, says, "NO, I don't want to hear about your religion". Don't even get the LDS folks coming by anymore. I suggest you go the same route.
 
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brothern said:
Oh! We're not done yet! The Bible says homosexuality is a sin ... and I truly believe it, to the bottom of my heart. Thus I treat all of my peers with disdain, disrespect and try to save them from this horrible lifestyle choice with JESUS! It's extra difficult to have FAITH IN JESUS in this world, when you think that gays are sinners and are going to burn in hell! I cannot believe how much pointless bigotry is leveled against me when I have nothing but the absolute disdain for the rights and liberty of others.

Come on! Let's have another rousing sing song, apdst! You can use your Bible quotes extra well in this song!!

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Did I say anything against you? Did I say that gays are sinners and going to burn in hell? If so, let's see it; otherwise, get the chip of your shoulder, stop feeling sorry for yourself and apologize for your bigoted, hateful personal attack that YOU leveled at me.
 
Kanstantine said:
If this is what they call "Christian love", I'm scared to see what "Christian hatred" looks like.
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I'm still waiting to see all that, "Liberal compassion", "tolerance", and, "fairness", I've been hearing about.
 
apdst said:
I'm still waiting to see all that, "Liberal compassion", "tolerance", and, "fairness", I've been hearing about.
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Its called Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, S-CHIP, and the rest of the social safety net in the USA that Liberals fight daily to defend and Conservatives fight daily to destroy.
 
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Fisher said:
It is a church. If they feel that allowing gay scouts to use their facilities conflicts with the purpose and teachings of his church, then that is his right. I don't consider it being a jerk--I consider it exercising his organization's right to dissent.
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He is exercising his organization's right to dissent and he is a bigoted jerk. Jerks have rights.
 
Kanstantine said:
Its called Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, S-CHIP, and the rest of the social safety net in the USA that Liberals fight daily to defend and Conservatives fight daily to destroy.
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That's where it ends? Screw everyone else? Nice! Can't wait for more of that BS.

Those aren't safety nets...those are just another version of slavery that Libbos hope will insure the security of their welfare class voting base. It's a shame that Libbos are so proud of re-inventing the plantation system.
 
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Hard Truth said:
He is exercising his organization's right to dissent and he is a bigoted jerk. Jerks have rights.
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People who ar bashing him for excercising his rights and holding to his religious convictions are bigoted jerks, too.
 
apdst said:
That's where it ends? Screw everyone else? Nice! Can't wait for more of that BS.

Those aren't safety nets...those are just another version of slavery that Libbos hope will insure the security of their welfare class voting base. It's a shame that Libbos are so proud of re-inventing the plantation system.
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All Americans that need those programs can get them.

A rich man who loses it all tomorrow can use these programs. It is a safety net for all.

For example, lots of people who lost all of their money from the Madoff Scandal have been forced to go back to work and certainly now will rely on Social Security and Medicare to care for them when they get older.
 
Kanstantine said:
All Americans that need those programs can get them.
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No, they really can't.

Kanstantine said:
A rich man who loses it all tomorrow can use these programs. It is a safety net for all.
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No, they really aren't.

Kanstantine said:
For example, lots of people who lost all of their money from the Madoff Scandal have been forced to go back to work and certainly now will rely on Social Security and Medicare to care for them when they get older.
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Then they'll be disappointed yet again. You have to have been paying into the system. If you're lived on investment income your SS account is ZERO. As FDR said, the program is only for the average working Joe.
 
Kanstantine said:
All Americans that need those programs can get them.

A rich man who loses it all tomorrow can use these programs. It is a safety net for all.

For example, lots of people who lost all of their money from the Madoff Scandal have been forced to go back to work and certainly now will rely on Social Security and Medicare to care for them when they get older.
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It's a scheme to induce certain groups of people to become permanently dependent on the government.
 
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apdst said:
Did I say anything against you? Did I say that gays are sinners and going to burn in hell? If so, let's see it; otherwise, get the chip of your shoulder, stop feeling sorry for yourself and apologize for your bigoted, hateful personal attack that YOU leveled at me.
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Uh-huh. You sly dog! You're just going to counter someone claiming that 'homosexuality isn't a sin' by appealing to the Bible! ("According to the Bible it's a sin." apdst, 03:30 PM) How about you use that Biblical appeal and start killing those homos?

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Come on - do your Christian duty! Practice what the Bible teaches! Remember, morality comes from God. You're not to blame for following its word, especially when all of these quotes come from both the Old and New Testaments. You have a moral duty to go out and say what the Bible says about gays:

Romans 1:18-3 They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

Also, women:

Timothy 2:11-12 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Corinthians 11: 6-7 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

Even Jesus condoned genocide for the Day of Judgement!

Matthew 10 14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Remember, it's all "according to the Bible" as you've said.
 
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Kanstantine said:
Its called Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, S-CHIP, and the rest of the social safety net in the USA that Liberals fight daily to defend and Conservatives fight daily to destroy.
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Does it really count as "compassion", "tolerance", or "fairness" when you're funding those programs by forcibly taking money from others?

And have you seen what those programs have done to the communities they purportedly help?

Maybe you should walk through an inner city neighborhood at night and get a real good look at how compassionate you are.
 
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brothern said:
Uh-huh. You sly dog! You're just going to counter someone claiming that 'homosexuality isn't a sin' by appealing to the Bible! ("According to the Bible it's a sin." apdst,, 03:30 PM) How about you use that Biblical appeal and start killing those homos?

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Come on - do you Christian duty! Practice what the Bible teaches! Remember, morality comes from God. You're not to blame for following its word, especially when all of these quotes come from both the Old and New Testaments. You have a moral duty to go out and say what the Bible says about gays:

Romans 1:18-3 They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

Also, women:

Timothy 2:11-12 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Corinthians 11: 6-7 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

Even Jesus condoned genocide for the Day of Judgement!

Matthew 10 14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Remember, it's all "according to the Bible" as you've said.
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You appear to claim to understand the Bible and the various flavours of christianity - why don't YOU?
 
apdst said:
It's a scheme to induce certain groups of people to become permanently dependent on the government.
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You will be collecting Social Security and Medicare when you are eligable.
 
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apdst said:
The Christianophobes do the same thing. They invoked the ever notorious, "WWJD", when preaching about passivism and paying taxes--not even knowing what the latter passage is even referring to--yet insist that homosexuality isn't a sin, when the Bible clearly states that it is.
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It isn't that homosexuality isn't a sin (lots of things are in the Bible that most Christians ignore entirely), it's that we just don't give a damn because sin is an utterly idiotic concept.
 
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Gaugingcatenate said:
Where on the scale does, "it did it by itself" come in? Between god and worm maybe?
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At the time of the list is "we don't know" and everything else goes straight to the bottom. Just making up absurd nonsense to make yourself feel better is stupid.
 
Kanstantine said:
You will be collecting Social Security and Medicare when you are eligable.
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Getting back the money they took from me, you mean? Well, maybe, unless they've given it all away to people who never paid into the system, in the attempt to expanding the Democrat plantation system.
 
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