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    This is What Winning Looks Like

    This Is What Winning Looks Like (Full Length) - YouTube

    I found this video to be quite interesting, check it out if you have the time.
    Feel free to offer your thoughts on the War in Afghanistan as well.

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    Re: This is What Winning Looks Like

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh Internets View Post
    This Is What Winning Looks Like (Full Length) - YouTube

    I found this video to be quite interesting, check it out if you have the time.
    Feel free to offer your thoughts on the War in Afghanistan as well.
    Considering that most people will not bother, care to open the conversation/debate with anything?

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    Re: This is What Winning Looks Like

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Considering that most people will not bother, care to open the conversation/debate with anything?
    I guess I can sum up the video, it's basically saying that we are handing over the job of protecting Afghanistan to the Afghan police forces. Despite having control over a large part of
    Afghanistan, it's believed that the police forces won't be able to hold it together on their own. The local governments are corrupt, partly because a good number of the people in Afghanistan are illiterate, and the only way to communicate is verbally, which leaves no record. This leaves the system wide open to corruption. Many of Police Force leaders are outright child molesters, morale is low among the Afghan troops and the citizenry, and there are many Taliban defectors among the Afghan troops. There is also rampant drug addiction among the Afghan troops. The video is saying that Afghanistan is ready to fall.

    To me it seems like Vietnam before we left. We tried that whole Vietnamization business to jump ship on a lost cause, and it seems like we're doing it again.

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    Re: This is What Winning Looks Like

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh Internets View Post
    I guess I can sum up the video, it's basically saying that we are handing over the job of protecting Afghanistan to the Afghan police forces. Despite having control over a large part of
    Afghanistan, it's believed that the police forces won't be able to hold it together on their own. The local governments are corrupt, partly because a good number of the people in Afghanistan are illiterate, and the only way to communicate is verbally, which leaves no record. This leaves the system wide open to corruption. Many of Police Force leaders are outright child molesters, morale is low among the Afghan troops and the citizenry, and there are many Taliban defectors among the Afghan troops. There is also rampant drug addiction among the Afghan troops. The video is saying that Afghanistan is ready to fall.

    To me it seems like Vietnam before we left. We tried that whole Vietnamization business to jump ship on a lost cause, and it seems like we're doing it again.
    Here's what I don't get: Some of the same people who claim that the Iranian people can rise up and defeat their backwards totalitarian regime do not think Afghans can handle their own.

    At any rate, the problems you mention (I presume with the exception of pedos rampant in the police force) exist everywhere in the developing world.

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    Re: This is What Winning Looks Like

    Watched this documentary a couple weeks ago too. Great documentary, really eye opening. Pretty much Afghanistan is destined to fail, and im guessing it will fail. The whole Army and police force is in shambles, and the citizenry is pretty much on both sides, they pretty much are on the side of whatever group (the gov or the Taliban) is the strongest or is in current control of their village.


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