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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    No rules in an area regulated by the IRS?

    No rules means no control and no control means no IRS.
    I mean no rules for political or charitable giving.
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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    No rules in an area regulated by the IRS?

    No rules means no control and no control means no IRS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I mean no rules for political or charitable giving.
    So, is it okay for foreign company / country to influence our elections with advertising money?

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So, is it okay for foreign company / country to influence our elections with advertising money?
    I simply want to erase the distinction between (3) and (4).
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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I simply want to erase the distinction between (3) and (4).
    That doesn't answer my question. I think the lure to 501c4 in the ability to keep donors secret.

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I mean no rules for political or charitable giving.
    What kind of a country is it if you can't buy politicians?

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So, is it okay for foreign company / country to influence our elections with advertising money?

    Clinton thought so.

    The simple truth is that we have a great influence on any country with which we deal whether it is in a friendly or an unfriendly way.

    If a company like Shell makes a donation to a political candidate or party, that is a defacto foreign contribution, but that company has a vested interest in how the government acts in relation to how Shell is allowed to do business.
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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Clinton thought so.

    The simple truth is that we have a great influence on any country with which we deal whether it is in a friendly or an unfriendly way.

    If a company like Shell makes a donation to a political candidate or party, that is a defacto foreign contribution, but that company has a vested interest in how the government acts in relation to how Shell is allowed to do business.
    Since when have companies been able to directly contribute money to candidates or political parties?

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Since when have companies been able to directly contribute money to candidates or political parties?

    Um...

    Forever?

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Those are not direct contributions, they are individuals and pac's.

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    That doesn't answer my question. I think the lure to 501c4 in the ability to keep donors secret.
    I don't have a problem with secret donors so long as the campaign certifies, on pain of perjury, that they are Americans. We have a secret ballot after all.
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