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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What evidence is there that supports this crap?
    Oh first off lets ignore the apolgy, the Stonewalling of top IRS officials, Lois Lerner taking the Fifth, the first lie that it was isolated to a few " front line employees in Cinci". ( those guys have come forward since then and stated they were merely taking orders from higher ups,) the fact that its spread to other Cities including DC.

    The first hand accounts of people being targeted, harrassed, visited by the FBI, the current DOJ CRIMINAL investigation, the fact that the House Comittee has rounded up close to a hundred people from the IRS that are going to give depositions.

    And then lets take your ridiculous highly suspect claim of a " lack of evidence."

    Face it, you elected liars, incompetents and criminals who targeted innocent people.....and your'e proud of it too.

    Unreal. My guess is there is NO evidece great enough that will force you or any other Corrupted Liberal to admit their huge lack of judgment.

    Its starting to reflect on the mentallity of each denier individually.

    What ? I'm not sure yet. Humility is not a sttong suite of the American Liberal.

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Oh first off lets ignore the apolgy, the Stonewalling of top IRS officials, Lois Lerner taking the Fifth, the first lie that it was isolated to a few " front line employees in Cinci". ( those guys have come forward since then and stated they were merely taking orders from higher ups,) the fact that its spread to other Cities including DC.

    The first hand accounts of people being targeted, harrassed, visited by the FBI, the current DOJ CRIMINAL investigation, the fact that the House Comittee has rounded up close to a hundred people from the IRS that are going to give depositions.

    And then lets take your ridiculous highly suspect claim of a " lack of evidence."

    Face it, you elected liars, incompetents and criminals who targeted innocent people.....and your'e proud of it too.

    Unreal. My guess is there is NO evidece great enough that will force you or any other Corrupted Liberal to admit their huge lack of judgment.

    Its starting to reflect on the mentallity of each denier individually.

    What ? I'm not sure yet. Humility is not a sttong suite of the American Liberal.
    Just as I thought, you have no evidence this involves anyone in the Obama administration. .

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    No joke. What did the IRS do to target conservative donors? How did they ruin peoples lives?

    We know that the IRS used "conservative" buzzwords to help identify groups potentially engaging in impermissible political activity. Did they do anything else?
    The more that comes out about this the more it looks like some of the more serious allegations are likely correct. So far it has been alleged that, in addition to targeting conservative groups, the IRS was also involved in information laundering. They took the information(donor lists, membership lists, names, addresses, phone numbers, etc...) that they demanded of these groups applying for tax exempt status and gave them to the liberal media outlet ProPublica. ProPublica then used that information to smear conservatives.

    If true this is a blatant abuse of power. It also turns out that the same campaign aid of Obama's(I forget her name) that got caught lying during the campaign about not knowing anything about that stupid add that claimed Romney was responsible for a woman dying of cancer was actually in a meeting with the head of the IRS at the White House during one of his 150 plus visits there. What the hell is a key campaign aide doing meeting with the head of the IRS? Maybe it's nothing but I for one would like an explanation.
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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Just as I thought, you have no evidence this involves anyone in the Obama administration. .
    LOL !!

    Yea, this all was the doing of a few front line employees who were just trying to find a way to make their jobs easier....

    Lets put it this way, there is far more evidence now that implicates him and his low life ilk.

    Just think when all of this washes out, your'e going to complicit in the election of the most corrupt administration in our Nations History.

    Something for you libs to be proud of no doubt.

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    The Democrats are acting like Democrats and taking the politically safe position. They're the invertebrate party.
    So, they should be more authoritarian eh? Interesting....

    There are lots of allegations available all over the net, but the facts are contained in a relatively few documents. What evidence do you have that the IRS conspired with other agencies?
    More people are coming out daily, but the investigation by congress is not concluded on this subject.

    Considering that the groups in question didn't actually need to wait for approval, how did the IRS delay anyone's ability to conduct business?
    Based on the harassment of these people not only for their organizations, but their personal businesses, and families as well, I'd say they made their lives hell.

    Crossroads GPS was never approved, and they managed to funnel more than 70 million dollars into the 2012 election.
    Crossroads is a different entity from that of a mom, and pop tea party. You know that.

    And what about ideologically harassed? Is there any evidence at all that conservatives faced more scrutiny than groups of other ideological leanings?
    Yes keep up with the hearings and you will hear it.

    Conservatives spent 85% of the money on political adds, accounted for 80% of the groups applying, yet only accounted for 66% of the groups investigated. That doesn't look like the kind of data fingerprint that a systematic bias would leave.
    Isn't it wonderful how easy it is to manipulate statistics?....

    I'm not claiming that the IRS did nothing wrong.
    No, you are just making excuses for it, and basically saying that because it was directed at what you view as your political enemy then it was ok.

    And I'm certainly not claiming that there's no incompetence in the IRS.
    Come on man, one of the questions was what does your group pray?

    But where's the scandal? These groups deserved to be investigated.
    And there it is...In its full glory.....sad.

    In fact, the Senate had been holding bipartisan hearings for the past year as to why political groups were allowed to operate under the guise of 501c4 organizations. That's the scandal.
    I see, so if the demo controlled senate holds the hearings, all's good, but if the repub controlled house holds oversight, it's a witch hunt....I think I see a patern from you....
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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    The more that comes out about this the more it
    looks like some of the more serious allegations are likely correct. So far it has been alleged that, in addition to targeting conservative groups, the IRS was also involved in information laundering. They took the information(donor lists, membership lists, names, addresses, phone numbers, etc...) that they demanded of these groups applying for tax exempt status and gave them to the liberal media outlet ProPublica. ProPublica then used that information to smear conservatives.

    If true this is a blatant abuse of power. It also turns out that the same campaign aid of Obama's(I forget her name) that got caught lying during the campaign about not knowing anything about that stupid add that claimed Romney was responsible for a woman dying of cancer was actually in a meeting with the head of the IRS at the White House during one of his 150 plus visits there. What the hell is a key campaign aide doing meeting with the head of the IRS? Maybe it's nothing but I for one would like an explanation.
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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    I understand the partisanship on this site, I really do. However this is the IRS! We can all agree to hate the IRS right?
    I have CDO, it's like OCD but the letters are in alphabetical order like they should be.

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!

    Yea, this all was the doing of a few front line employees who were just trying to find a way to make their jobs easier....

    Lets put it this way, there is far more evidence now that implicates him and his low life ilk.

    Just think when all of this washes out, your'e going to complicit in the election of the most corrupt administration in our Nations History.

    Something for you libs to be proud of no doubt.
    There is none, otherwise you would produce it.

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    I understand the partisanship on this site, I really do. However this is the
    IRS! We can all agree to hate the IRS right?
    Not the Obama apologist here.

    Who demand " proof " as they ignore the obvious.

    These people wouldn't bat an eye if the IRS froze every Republicans bank account as Homeland Security rounded them up.

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    Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There is none, otherwise you would produce it.
    So you are rushing to declare a conclusion before an investigation is complete? How utterly objective of you pete.
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