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Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

"Dumping hazardous waste" is probably Californian for "poured mop buckets down the sink."
 
Wal Mart didn't put those mom-n-pop joints out of business; the government did. All those wonderful government regulations--such as EPA regulations--are so costly, that only mega corps can afford to operate under them.

You think Miss Jerry's Department Store--an actual store that used to be open in my hometown--can afford an $81 million bill to our greedy ass government?

You wanna decry greed? Start with the government.

When we succeed, it's all by ourselves individual effort blah blah nobody ever helped me build a road.
When we fail, it was totally the governments fault.
 
Walmart got this huge fine because it's Walmart not because some "poorly trained" morons disposed of pesticides in an illegal way. Any fool knows you don't poor pesticide down the drain, Walmart should not have to train these people but the idiots should be fired.
 
In every state I've lived in, you get caught pouring say, motor oil, down the drain and it's a huge fine. Homeowners/renters included.



Be that as it may, Walmart got caught doing this, there's no debate on that. I'm not defending California's anti-business stance, but I sure won't condone Walmart, or anyone, dumping toxic waste.

Absolutely. Motor oil, pesticides, other toxic substances cannot be legally dumped in the sewer system. I'm perplexed by the bleach thing, since just about every household in the country at one time or another has sent bleach into the sewer system via their perfectly legal washing machines with automated bleach dispensers.
 
Absolutely. Motor oil, pesticides, other toxic substances cannot be legally dumped in the sewer system. I'm perplexed by the bleach thing, since just about every household in the country at one time or another has sent bleach into the sewer system via their perfectly legal washing machines with automated bleach dispensers.


might be the amount they are dumping
 
When we succeed, it's all by ourselves individual effort blah blah nobody ever helped me build a road.
When we fail, it was totally the governments fault.

Oh, so it's the fault of those ALL small business owners that they went out of business? Is that what you're saying?

BTW, how much is Obamacare going to cost businesses, on the average? How's about you email Dear Leader and ask him for your daily talking points.
 
might be the amount they are dumping

Find out how much bleach is sold to consumers in this country and then you'll know how much bleach goes into the sewer system.
 
Absolutely. Motor oil, pesticides, other toxic substances cannot be legally dumped in the sewer system. I'm perplexed by the bleach thing, since just about every household in the country at one time or another has sent bleach into the sewer system via their perfectly legal washing machines with automated bleach dispensers.

Yep! Mom and pop outfits can't afford to dispose of those products, hence they couldn't stay in business.
 
Wow...

For pouring bleach in a drain?

The state must be hard up for technicalities, and charging those with large wallets huge fees.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but bleach is chlorine diluted in water, typically about 3%. We use in and flush it down the drain...
 
If a company breaks the law they should be held accountable.

As a whole I like Walmart though, I know that they do a lot to provide low cost products to lower income individuals. They also have one of the most humane and ethical pharmacy operations out there.

Let's not get carried away, Walmart is no charity, they are in it for the money. I shop there too but I don't have any illusions. They are a shining example of the fault of pure free-market capitalism, the big will keep swallowing up the small until there is only one corporation left. It's all in the name of "efficiency" and it's up to Govt. to stop it from occurring. There is no free market without competition and that day keeps getting closer with every M & A.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
This is another reason why Walmart sucks, other than dumping wastes they also getting their **** from 3rd world countries who have no labor standards,
So do most other stores.
TheDemSocialist said:
putting mom and pop stores out of business,
No, they were put out of business long ago by earlier chain stores. Those surviving today will not go out of business because of Walmart.
TheDemSocialist said:
treating their employees like ****.
Most businesses do.
TheDemSocialist said:
The list can go on and on. But hey, throw another one up for Walmart.
Your biased and unfounded hatred is clear.
 
Let's not get carried away, Walmart is no charity, they are in it for the money. I shop there too but I don't have any illusions. They are a shining example of the fault of pure free-market capitalism, the big will keep swallowing up the small until there is only one corporation left. It's all in the name of "efficiency" and it's up to Govt. to stop it from occurring. There is no free market without competition and that day keeps getting closer with every M & A.

Who's going to protect us when the government starts deciding who gets to stay in business and who doesn't?

I think our Leftist friends are all too willing to give the government more power than it needs.
 
Find out how much bleach is sold to consumers in this country and then you'll know how much bleach goes into the sewer system.

right, if you take a bunch of other individual entities they might amount to what walmart is dumping. Like I said, it might be the amount ...
 
right, if you take a bunch of other individual entities they might amount to what walmart is dumping. Like I said, it might be the amount ...

The amount shouldn't matter. Hazardous materials are hazardous materials.
 
Who's going to protect us when the government starts deciding who gets to stay in business and who doesn't?

I think our Leftist friends are all too willing to give the government more power than it needs.

You sound just like Greenspan when he was hawking "Financial Modernization" by elimination of banking restrictions passed in the 1930's. . He swore up and down that Bankers were different now and would not let greed screw up the world's economy anymore. That lasted about 7 years...
Without proper regulation, history has shown us that capitalism doesn't work very well. We had it going pretty well for 35 years until greed and Republicans started chipping away at the controls we installed. It's been downhill ever since.
 
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You sound just like Greenspan when he was hawking "Financial Modernization" by elimination of banking restrictions passed in the 1930's. . He swore up and down that Bankers were different now and would not let greed screw up the world's economy anymore. That lasted about 7 years....

And, they didn't let greed screw up the world's economy...it was the government that screwed up the world's economy by pressuring these banks to make all those bad loans.
 
sure the amount should matter

So, 1,000 businesses dumping 1 gallon each isn't as bad as 1 business dumping 1,000 gallons?

Sounds more like a shakedown, to me. 81 million bucks will pay for a helluva lot of government waste.
 
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