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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    WalMart is a disaster for the USA as it is slow economic suicide. Or rather the last stages of it.

    WalMart essentially requires suppliers/vendors to go to China. Each year, WalMart will demand that a vendor reduce it's price to WalMart by 1 to 2%. It also tends to buy from a single company - meaning the production field narrows down to one - and that one totally dependent on WalMart. As the company approaches being no longer profitable, WalMart will provide experts to lead the company to shutting down its USA production and shifting it to China. Either do that or WalMart will find a company that will - or just assume production in China itself - thus having totally 100% eliminated American production of that product.

    WalMart also has created consumers fully accepting extremely short-life crap products - meaning their products aren't cheap, but rather very costly. The same product in WalMart generally will be crappier than elsewhere, even if by the same company. As a result, people have to buy the same item over and over and over.

    When I needed some electrical connections late at night, I went to WalMart. I had to throw them away because the metal was so thin as to be essentially unusable and outright dangerous. However, you had to peel away the plastic coating to see the difference. Not only will WalMart products last a shorter time, they are deliberately meant to. If the vacume cleaner you bought breaks 14 months later, what are you doing to do? Go back to WalMart and buy another. In a lifetime then you buy 15 vacume cleaners.

    Consumers have been conditioned to accept this. Federal law requires ALL new products last a reasonable amount of time as a guaranteed warranty. But now? You buy something and they ask if you want to buy a "protection plan for 1 year." 1 YEAR? You have to pay an extra 15% to cover it likely breaking within a year?

    I read a study sometime ago that explained that the wealthy actually spend less on furniture than the middle class, because the wealthy buy top quality. It is not only superior in appearance, but lasts a lifetime. The middle class will buy furniture that lasts 5 to 10 years. So they buy 4 to 5 times as much. The same for quality clothing. There are stores my wife will not buy any clothing or linens from because they fall apart quickly.

    WalMart is leading the last destruction of American production with the lost jobs and economic base plus forever increasing the debt, while replacing quality products with crap designed to break quickly.

    Contrary to belief, WalMart is not the cheapest place to shop. In the long run it is the most expensive.
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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    Walmart is America's biggest private employer. Give them some slack. Besides, look at all they have done for towns across the country by delivering quality goods at a decent price to them so they don't have to pay the overinflated prices of the local producers and sellers. Hey, I say let them pollute as much as the want as long as it benefits the consumers and they continue to accumulate more capital that eventually will trickle down and make the nation's poor well off.

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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    This is another reason why Walmart sucks, other than dumping wastes they also getting their **** from 3rd world countries who have no labor standards, putting mom and pop stores out of business, treating their employees like ****. The list can go on and on. But hey, throw another one up for Walmart. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    If Mom and Pop businesses dumped hazardous waste in the rivers, that would be okay right? BTW, prove Mom and Pop businesses only buy American.
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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    WalMart is a disaster for the USA as it is slow economic suicide. Or rather the last stages of it.
    ROTFLOL...

    WalMart essentially requires suppliers/vendors to go to China.
    Not true. But if some go to China, it's because all the hassles of doing business in America run up the costs of doing business to the point of having to leave. There are many other countries other than China that deliver low cost products... and to stay competitive... companies around the world are looking at these less expensive manufacturing bases.


    Each year, WalMart will demand that a vendor reduce it's price to WalMart by 1 to 2%.
    Source please... because this type of blanket statement makes zero sense.

    It also tends to buy from a single company - meaning the production field narrows down to one - and that one totally dependent on WalMart.
    The market is far larger than one company... and sometimes companies do have the brunt of their business tied to WalMart. It's their choice. Snapper for example had a deal with WalMart and decided to exit it. Companies are free to choose.
    As the company approaches being no longer profitable, WalMart will provide experts to lead the company to shutting down its USA production and shifting it to China. Either do that or WalMart will find a company that will - or just assume production in China itself - thus having totally 100% eliminated American production of that product.
    Blame overbearing government, blame unions, blame things like an artificial minimum wage. It's a competitive world, and if we price ourselves out of a certain business, don't blame companies that go overseas to escape these burdens to provide for their customer. The world, and companies do not stop and wait for idiotic American policies.

    WalMart also has created consumers fully accepting extremely short-life crap products - meaning their products aren't cheap, but rather very costly. The same product in WalMart generally will be crappier than elsewhere, even if by the same company. As a result, people have to buy the same item over and over and over.
    If WalMart sold crap... they would be out of business... period.

    When I needed some electrical connections late at night, I went to WalMart. I had to throw them away because the metal was so thin as to be essentially unusable and outright dangerous.
    Wrong again. Products have to go through UL, and WalMart won't sell products that are a risk to human life. It would be suicide to do so.

    However, you had to peel away the plastic coating to see the difference. Not only will WalMart products last a shorter time, they are deliberately meant to. If the vacume cleaner you bought breaks 14 months later, what are you doing to do? Go back to WalMart and buy another. In a lifetime then you buy 15 vacume cleaners.
    This is one ridiculous statement piled atop of another. I have a friend who is an engineer in the business of testing materials for products. They are produced to have a lifetime, and when I asked him how long household products are designed to last, he said about 10-years.
    I read a study sometime ago that explained that the wealthy actually spend less on furniture than the middle class, because the wealthy buy top quality. It is not only superior in appearance, but lasts a lifetime. The middle class will buy furniture that lasts 5 to 10 years. So they buy 4 to 5 times as much. The same for quality clothing. There are stores my wife will not buy any clothing or linens from because they fall apart quickly.
    The wealthy also pay a top price... probably a few times to 10-times or more the price of mass produced products. For the middle class, they know what they are buying, and many do so knowing they'll want to change styles in some years. Same with clothing. You can buy clothing styled in the manner of top brands that charge hundreds of dollars per garment for 10% the price. With the changing styles every season, it makes sense for the masses to buy less expensive clothes.

    You really think the consumers are a bunch of idiots.
    WalMart is leading the last destruction of American production with the lost jobs and economic base plus forever increasing the debt, while replacing quality products with crap designed to break quickly.
    And now we come to the end of one long post about pure BS.

    If America wanted to keep those jobs, they should of thought how to do it long, long ago. The US Government and decades of socialist and overbearing legislation, combined with idiotic unions has cost America competitiveness in the market....

    ... and the Invisible Hand simply moved those jobs to where it is more economical.

    Contrary to belief, WalMart is not the cheapest place to shop. In the long run it is the most expensive.
    Wrong again... for if that were true... WalMart would have been out of business long, long ago. WalMart saves the American family about $2500 per year, and the competition has become leaner as well. Those that didn't... failed... just as your post is one big Joko and a massive failure.
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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    This is another reason why Walmart sucks, other than dumping wastes they also getting their **** from 3rd world countries who have no labor standards, putting mom and pop stores out of business, treating their employees like ****. The list can go on and on. But hey, throw another one up for Walmart. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    No surprise here, but thanks for the news. I never shop at Wal Mart.

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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    "Dumping hazardous waste" is probably Californian for "poured mop buckets down the sink."

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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wal Mart didn't put those mom-n-pop joints out of business; the government did. All those wonderful government regulations--such as EPA regulations--are so costly, that only mega corps can afford to operate under them.

    You think Miss Jerry's Department Store--an actual store that used to be open in my hometown--can afford an $81 million bill to our greedy ass government?

    You wanna decry greed? Start with the government.
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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    Walmart got this huge fine because it's Walmart not because some "poorly trained" morons disposed of pesticides in an illegal way. Any fool knows you don't poor pesticide down the drain, Walmart should not have to train these people but the idiots should be fired.

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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    In every state I've lived in, you get caught pouring say, motor oil, down the drain and it's a huge fine. Homeowners/renters included.



    Be that as it may, Walmart got caught doing this, there's no debate on that. I'm not defending California's anti-business stance, but I sure won't condone Walmart, or anyone, dumping toxic waste.
    Absolutely. Motor oil, pesticides, other toxic substances cannot be legally dumped in the sewer system. I'm perplexed by the bleach thing, since just about every household in the country at one time or another has sent bleach into the sewer system via their perfectly legal washing machines with automated bleach dispensers.

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    Re: Walmart Pleads Guilty To Dumping Hazardous Waste, Will Pay $81 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Absolutely. Motor oil, pesticides, other toxic substances cannot be legally dumped in the sewer system. I'm perplexed by the bleach thing, since just about every household in the country at one time or another has sent bleach into the sewer system via their perfectly legal washing machines with automated bleach dispensers.

    might be the amount they are dumping

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