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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    When that war hero is a U.S. Senator engaging in a controversial action on Memorial Day, you can hardly expect people to give him deference just because he is a war hero. These actions could affect many people's lives, and worrying about him being a war hero just isn't on the radar.

    Nonsense. Don't get your panties in a twist.
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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Nonsense. Don't get your panties in a twist.
    Mine aren't. I haven't formed an opinion on the Syria situation. I don't know if I agree with Obama or not. I just think no one should bother worrying about McCain being a war hero with respect to political matters, and certainly not on the matter of Syria. Memorial Day or not.

    I want to hear people's honest thoughts about the matter, not thoughts filtered by his status as a war hero.
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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Mine aren't. I haven't formed an opinion on the Syria situation. I don't know if I agree with Obama or not. I just think no one should bother worrying about McCain being a war hero with respect to political matters, and certainly not on the matter of Syria. Memorial Day or not.

    I want to hear people's honest thoughts about the matter, not thoughts filtered by his status as a war hero.
    My honest thoughts are these. The destruction of the Asad regime would be a strategic defeat for Iran and Hezbollah, and therefore hugely in our interest. The optimum moment for safe, effective support to forces we favor passed long ago. Nonetheless, there may still be an opportunity to do something worthwhile.

    John McCain is a grown man, a US Senator, a war veteran and a former POW. He has the right to go and see for himself.
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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    McCain is an idiot. I wonder who gave him the OK to go there?

    As much as I detest Obama, Thank God McQueeg wasn't elected POTUS.
    Despite mccain's total lack of noodle, he does have some character (a trait virtually non-existent in Washington), given the way he conducted himself in the 2008 campaign.

    If the story line of the Game Change movie is true, then he really did put principles above politics, and there's something to be said for that.

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    My honest thoughts are these. The destruction of the Asad regime would be a strategic defeat for Iran and Hezbollah, and therefore hugely in our interest. The optimum moment for safe, effective support to forces we favor passed long ago. Nonetheless, there may still be an opportunity to do something worthwhile.

    John McCain is a grown man, a US Senator, a war veteran and a former POW. He has the right to go and see for himself.
    Ok, those are the upsides, and I already agree with you in every respect on those. Have you considered any downsides, and if so, which ones, and what swayed you to dismiss or discount them?

    On the matter of US senators... They should act responsibly, and I am not sure that he was. This applies to grown men and POWs as well, but I only care about U.S. senators in this case.
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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: [url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/27/exclusive-john-mccain-slips-across-border-into-syria-meets-with-rebels.html]Exclusive: John McCain
    Is an idiot w/the mind of a turnip. Next question.

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    My honest thoughts are these. The destruction of the Asad regime would be a strategic defeat for Iran and Hezbollah, and therefore hugely in our interest. The optimum moment for safe, effective support to forces we favor passed long ago. Nonetheless, there may still be an opportunity to do something worthwhile.

    John McCain is a grown man
    Physically, not mentally.

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Ok, those are the upsides, and I already agree with you in every respect on those. Have you considered any downsides, and if so, which ones, and what swayed you to dismiss or discount them?

    On the matter of US senators... They should act responsibly, and I am not sure that he was. This applies to grown men and POWs as well, but I only care about U.S. senators in this case.

    I think McCain has acted more responsibly than anyone else. I don't think downsides come into play so long as we're only helping selected parties.
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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    There are Americans that ally themselves with extreme Islamists. He should not meet with America! There are Europeans that ally themselves with extreme Islamists. He better not be going there next! Oh, yeah, and obviously we better stop talking to pretty much the entire Mideast. There's not a state to be found without those who ally themselves with extreme Islamists. If he wants to deal with a group wherein no one allies themselves with extreme Islamists, we better make him ambassador to the moon.

    Are we really gonna refuse to meet with any group that have some members who ally themselves with extreme Islamists? What kind of idiotic foreign policy is that?



    You know the best part? The OP poster thinks we should engage in talks with Iran and that we should talk with Assad. Laughable hypocrisy.
    What difference does it make whether anyone talks to either of them? They'll do what they want to do no matter what

    Plus, I support Assad 100% in his fight w/the Islamofascist rebels (which apparently includes independent Sunni extremist factions--what the West calls "al Qaeda").

    And fortunately, Obama isn't stupid enough to arm the anti-Assad terrorists.

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Let's just admit it, guys. Solletica is right. McCain is in it for himself; he's a childish moron who doesn't care about anything or anyone else. And, after all, it's not like Assad really did anything wrong.

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