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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    With people that tie themselves to Al-Nursa who is basically a part of Al-Qaeda, yes. Who wouldnt?
    The Free Syrian Army does not associate with Al-Nusra. Al-Nusra does not operate under the FSA command structure and they've actually engaged in skirmishes with each other over disputed territory.

    Though, to the poorly informed such as yourself, they may appear to be one and the same.

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uhhh i believe i pretty much said i believe the "US should stay out of this civil war". Miss that? Meaning that i believe we should not pick sides in this conflict and not get involved.
    Why? So the Islamist extremists you continually warn us about continue to eek out a larger share of influence within the opposition? No thank you. I'd rather work to minimize theirs and increase the power and influence of the more moderate factions that are more aligned with US interests and values.

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    McCain is an idiot. I wonder who gave him the OK to go there?

    As much as I detest Obama, Thank God McQueeg wasn't elected POTUS.
    he doesn't need anyone's OK...why would he? and whose permission would be needed?

    additionally, we shouldn't get involved in their civil war.

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good evening 2M - it would be a major international incident if Senator McCain had been killed or captured and could very well have drawn the US into a conflict they otherwise may not have entered. In addition, in my view, he is informally making foreign policy pronouncements, at least to those he favored with a visit, by the simple fact he met with them. Maybe there is nothing like "seeing for yourself" but only if you actually have a say in any decision that is about to be made.
    Truth in advertising: I believe we should be doing more in Syria. I fear the moment for really effective action may have passed, but better late than never.
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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I hope we stay out of it too. I also hope that Senator McCain received the blessing from the Obama administration to do what he did or at least informed them of his intentions. Senators do not make foreign policy, the president does.
    but the fact that this old coot can sneak into the country should tell us that we can go in grab Assad and get out without anyone noticing ...

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Truth in advertising: I believe we should be doing more in Syria. I fear the moment for really effective action may have passed, but better late than never.
    Do you think he got the WH O.K. to go in? If not, do you think he should have first?

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Truth in advertising: I believe we should be doing more in Syria. I fear the moment for really effective action may have passed, but better late than never.
    If Obama and Clinton hadn't been at least marginally supportive of Assad in the beginning, the US may have been able to handle the situation similar to Libya, but Clinton famously referred to Assad as someone she and America could work with. Besides, Syria does have a strong ally in Russia.

    Going into Syria or controlling the outcome from afar was never going to be easy but you're right in that sooner rather than later was the only chance. From what one sees on the news, there's nothing left there to save - let the Russians take over and spend trillions rebuilding it if they want to.
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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    Do you think he got the WH O.K. to go in? If not, do you think he should have first?
    I have no idea whether he had WH approval, and I don't think he needed to ask.
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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    but the fact that this old coot can sneak into the country should tell us that we can go in grab Assad and get out without anyone noticing ...
    Perhaps you been watching too much TV. It is quite one thing to sneak into rebel held territory where the welcoming mat is out and they want you to come for a visit. It is another thing to sneak into government territory where he probably would have been shot on site or captured. Aasad I would be has plenty of body guards around him, around his palace or residence and in Damascus.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If Obama and Clinton hadn't been at least marginally supportive of Assad in the beginning, the US may have been able to handle the situation similar to Libya, but Clinton famously referred to Assad as someone she and America could work with. Besides, Syria does have a strong ally in Russia.

    Going into Syria or controlling the outcome from afar was never going to be easy but you're right in that sooner rather than later was the only chance. From what one sees on the news, there's nothing left there to save - let the Russians take over and spend trillions rebuilding it if they want to.
    The point is that the destruction of the Asad regime would be a strategic defeat for both Iran and Hezbollah.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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