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Wall Street is writing its own regulation bill

PeteEU said:
Who said elected by? No he conned the population into believing he had gotten over his cocaine and drinking habit and that his failed business career meant nothing and that he would fix something that was not really broken and all in the while he pushed through the same bull**** legislation for the 1% and their corporate allies. He could not even be bothered to help the victims of Katrina for **** sake... they were after all black and poor and democrats.
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How sad you are.
 
We're saying the same hing in different ways.

I voted for Obama because I believed he would be a better choice for the middle class. I was wrong. Your analysis is correct, he serves only the extremes. Needless to say I have been very disappointed and did not vote for him in 2012. His alternative seemed even worse - so I voted 3rd party.


CanadaJohn said:
It's a complicated answer, so I'll simply say that Obama has never been "the guy how represents the common man" - his four plus years in office should have disabused you of that notion long ago. Obama represents the fringes - the very rich and the very poor.
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My complaint is that h doesn't make an issue of it. I've given him over 4 years. How much patience should I have?

I think you're thinking of Part D, not Part C. I see Obamacare was equally crafted by the Part D beneficiaries and their bags of cash.



notquiteright said:
To be a bit more fair about this. It shouldn't surprise anyone the Republican controlled House had the lobbyists give so much input, (I am being nice). Remember the 'assistance' the Healthcare Industry gave so generously in helping write the Part C law for the Republican controlled Congress during BushII's time in office?

But don't despair and decry just yet. The Democrat controlled Senate must pass the bill before it gets to the President, who if we all recall is being barraged by a series of GOP lead attacks on everything they can think of, not to mention the tornado here in Oklahoma. He is a tad busy at the moment.

I understand the lament, we Citizens of this Grand and Glorious Republic are known for our lack of patience. These days the microwave is too slow!!! :mrgreen:
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specklebang said:
So he must be on the take as well. How disappointing. Wouldn't it be great to see a President that was for the people and against the bankers?
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It is realluy sad that all you care about doing is badmouthing Obama when clearly the whole of congress is to blame here. Part of the problem with people like you is you associate this with one single person and then pretend the whole system isn't completely screwed. But good for you playing find obama in a huge picture of purchased lawmakers on both sides.
 
The subject was Obama so I addressed Obama. Nowhere did I define anyone else. I complained that Obama had not stood up to the bad guys and was told that he was too busy. So, I said he mut also be on the take although that was certainly somewhat sarcastic.

You're such a dedicated loyalist that you couldn't see the context. Read my posts again if you have the time and you'll find that your evaluation is completely incorrect.


tererun said:
It is realluy sad that all you care about doing is badmouthing Obama when clearly the whole of congress is to blame here. Part of the problem with people like you is you associate this with one single person and then pretend the whole system isn't completely screwed. But good for you playing find obama in a huge picture of purchased lawmakers on both sides.
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specklebang said:
The subject was Obama so I addressed Obama. Nowhere did I define anyone else. I complained that Obama had not stood up to the bad guys and was told that he was too busy. So, I said he mut also be on the take although that was certainly somewhat sarcastic.

You're such a dedicated loyalist that you couldn't see the context. Read my posts again if you have the time and you'll find that your evaluation is completely incorrect.
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you do realize neither the topic or the Op even says the word obama in them. You actually brought Obama into this and started trying to make this about obama. if you did not notice the heavy handed way you steered this to only be about obama despite clearly being a government problem both sides should be concerned with, perhaps you need to take another look at your blinding Obama hate because you seem to be missing the very large congressional ass raping you are getting, and that might be an issue.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Should he speak up? Absolutely! But will he? Doubtful. Very doubtful.
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yep.

corporations probably wrote the PPACA, too. it's disappointing. letting corporate interests heavily influence legislation is a bit like letting politicians draw their own districts.
 
Jesus H. Christopher on a crutch. You got me! However, don't lose sight of my being critical rather than "blind hatred". I've defended Obama as often as I've attacked him.

I've had no kind words for congress. I'm an equal opportunity politician basher.





tererun said:
you do realize neither the topic or the Op even says the word obama in them. You actually brought Obama into this and started trying to make this about obama. if you did not notice the heavy handed way you steered this to only be about obama despite clearly being a government problem both sides should be concerned with, perhaps you need to take another look at your blinding Obama hate because you seem to be missing the very large congressional ass raping you are getting, and that might be an issue.
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specklebang said:
My complaint is that h doesn't make an issue of it. I've given him over 4 years. How much patience should I have?

I think you're thinking of Part D, not Part C. I see Obamacare was equally crafted by the Part D beneficiaries and their bags of cash.
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I didn't realize this bill took over 4 years to write. given the length of time it took to create the mess, the decades special interest has had to infiltrate both parties and the complete lack of real outrage among the voters I'm not sure what you expect in 4 years... Obama to do the angry black man routine and really trip the trigger of many on the Right.

No I mean the part C done in 97.
 
OK, we're having good faith confusion. I confess not remembering Part C.

Also, which bill are we talking about now. I've lost track:3oops:


notquiteright said:
I didn't realize this bill took over 4 years to write. given the length of time it took to create the mess, the decades special interest has had to infiltrate both parties and the complete lack of real outrage among the voters I'm not sure what you expect in 4 years... Obama to do the angry black man routine and really trip the trigger of many on the Right.

No I mean the part C done in 97.
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specklebang said:
OK, we're having good faith confusion. I confess not remembering Part C.

Also, which bill are we talking about now. I've lost track:3oops:
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The bill written in the House was for regulating transactions on Wall Street. The thrust would appear to be watering down much of the rules to at least limit the damage another 'invisible hand' jacking off the market. I have read the derivative market will be left rather wide open.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Read more @: Wall Street is writing its own regulation bill ? RT USA

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Enjoy the plutocracy. This country is literally being purchased and literally allowing corporations and banks to run the show. This is sickening.
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The DOJ is investigating it's own scandal, why the hell not?
 
tererun said:
It is realluy sad that all you care about doing is badmouthing Obama when clearly the whole of congress is to blame here. Part of the problem with people like you is you associate this with one single person and then pretend the whole system isn't completely screwed. But good for you playing find obama in a huge picture of purchased lawmakers on both sides.
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But, when something good happens, it's all Obama's doing, so say people like you.

something good = Obama did it!

something bad = Obama had nothing to do with it.
 
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