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"Some very good news for Obamacare"

Umm...what exactly do you think health care insurance DOES? Do you really think that the 5,200 silver plan the OP mentioned is going to pay for a heart transplant even after 30 years of paying into it? Thats only 156k. The whole idea behind insurance is to have a bunch of people pay into a pool and that pool is used to pay for the people that need the money now while growing off of the people that don't use it.

So the whole talking point of those that are for Obamacare and say "you don't have a right to make others pay for your healthcare" as a reason to demand that people buy health insurance is one huge pile of crap.

It's called insurance

Doesn't the right wing understand insurance?
 
It's called insurance

Doesn't the right wing understand insurance?

What did you actually think insurance was when you made your original statement?
 
It's called insurance

Doesn't the right wing understand insurance?

It is doing the very same thing which you say people are not allowed to do...make others pay for your health care costs. Indeed, now that it is MANDATED by the government you are making others pay into insurance which is collectively used by everyone in that pool. IE you mare making other people pay for your health insurance because you are not paying in near enough to cover JUST your healthcare costs. If you did then you wouldn't NEED insurance. You could just use a bank.

Seems like you are the one that doesn't understand insurance.
 
It's called insurance

Doesn't the right wing understand insurance?
Yes, we do. Driving is a privilege, so insurance is required to drive.

Is living also a privilege in your book?

And guess what. Some of us would prefer to pay the cheap rates of catastrophic insurance coverage, and pay all normal medical costs out of pocket. I despise the authoritarians who say I must carry insurance that meets their guidelines. Just who in hell do they think they are?
 
It is doing the very same thing which you say people are not allowed to do...make others pay for your health care costs. Indeed, now that it is MANDATED by the government you are making others pay into insurance which is collectively used by everyone in that pool. IE you mare making other people pay for your health insurance because you are not paying in near enough to cover JUST your healthcare costs. If you did then you wouldn't NEED insurance. You could just use a bank.

Seems like you are the one that doesn't understand insurance.

*You* are not the govt.

*You* do not have the right or the power to make others pay for your health care.

*You* do not understand the difference between you and the govt
 
Yes, we do. Driving is a privilege, so insurance is required to drive.

Is living also a privilege in your book?

And guess what. Some of us would prefer to pay the cheap rates of catastrophic insurance coverage, and pay all normal medical costs out of pocket. I despise the authoritarians who say I must carry insurance that meets their guidelines. Just who in hell do they think they are?

Go ahead and despise them. Whatever floats your boat

But the govt has the power to penalize those who won't get insurance.
 
It's true.

You don't have the liberty or the right to make other people pay for your health care.

Insurance <> "you making others pay for your health care"

You already lost the argument and now you're just drowning. I'm really not interesting in watching you drown. I'll see you around.
 
You already lost the argument and now you're just drowning. I'm really not interesting in watching you drown. I'll see you around.

Once again, you're making stuff up.

You haven't been able to refute anything I've said, so now you're back to making stuff up.
 
Yes, we do. Driving is a privilege, so insurance is required to drive.

Is living also a privilege in your book?

And guess what. Some of us would prefer to pay the cheap rates of catastrophic insurance coverage, and pay all normal medical costs out of pocket. I despise the authoritarians who say I must carry insurance that meets their guidelines. Just who in hell do they think they are?

I'm sure you'd prefer that. Until you got sick and it turns out your catastrophic coverage doesn't cover squat. Then the rest of the bill gets dumped on the public because you declare bankruptcy. Worse, since you are less likely to go to the doctor's office when paying out of pocket, you're more likely to need that catastrophic coverage because you let small problems turn into big ones.

Dump that on me? Who do you think you are?
 
*You* are not the govt.

*You* do not have the right or the power to make others pay for your health care.

*You* do not understand the difference between you and the govt

One last post..

Before Obamacare there was no prospect of someone forcing you to buy insurance and it being lawful. People would buy insurance on their own free will and decide freely to take part in a system where they paid for other peoples healthcare and in turn other people paid for their healthcare. Now people are going to be forced to buy insurance because of people like yourself that want to lower their healthcare bills. What is happening is these people are being forced to pay for other peoples healthcare.

In truth neither body has the power to force people into such an arrangement.
 
*You* are not the govt.

*You* do not have the right or the power to make others pay for your health care.

*You* do not understand the difference between you and the govt

The government is my servant. NOT my master. When it does become my master that is called tyranny. Do you support tyrannical governments?
 
One last post..

Before Obamacare there was no prospect of someone forcing you to buy insurance and it being lawful. People would buy insurance on their own free will and decide freely to take part in a system where they paid for other peoples healthcare and in turn other people paid for their healthcare. Now people are going to be forced to buy insurance because of people like yourself that to lower their healthcare bills. What is happening is these people are being forced to pay for other peoples healthcare.

In truth neither body has the power to force people to into such an arrangement.

You're still making stuff up

No one is forced to buy insurance

And no one has the right to make others pay for their health care.
 
The government is my servant. NOT my master. When it does become my master that is called tyranny. Do you support tyrannical governments?

No, the govt. is not your servant.

And neither are all the people you want to fob your medical bills off on.
 
You're still making stuff up

No one is forced to buy insurance

And no one has the right to make others pay for their health care.

:lamo Right..
 
No, the govt. is not your servant.

And neither are all the people you want to fob your medical bills off on.

Yes, the government is the servant.
 
I'm sure you'd prefer that. Until you got sick and it turns out your catastrophic coverage doesn't cover squat. Then the rest of the bill gets dumped on the public because you declare bankruptcy. Worse, since you are less likely to go to the doctor's office when paying out of pocket, you're more likely to need that catastrophic coverage because you let small problems turn into big ones.

Dump that on me? Who do you think you are?
Someone who has self responsibility rather than an authoritarian, telling other what they must do...
 
No, the govt. is not your servant.

And neither are all the people you want to fob your medical bills off on.

Man you are a hypocrit. But at least it is good to know that you support tyrannical governments. Don't come crying to me when the government comes after something that YOU hold to be a Right or something near and dear to you.

BTW, I pay my medical bills. Without insurance. I have never ONCE filed bankruptcy and I never will. I don't force others to pay for anything that I own or have.
 
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