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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    Yeah man...folks are lovin them some Obamacare. Shame they didnt bother actually reading what they were supporting. Of course...it will all be 'fixed'...

    Now, some unions upset over Obamacare - CBS News

    Bottom line...mindless supporters LOVE Obamacare. Those that havent yet been hit with a bill LOVE Obamacare. Everyone else? Well...welcome to the real world.

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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You enjoy Russian Roulette!! I'm glad you won't have to play it with your family anymore. Even if you're not.
    Except he will be able to. Idaho opted out of the Medicaid expansion. With a family and $19K income he will be one of those people who gets left in the gap. He won't be penalized because of his income so if desires not to participate in the national exchange, there is nothing to stop him or even discourage him.

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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    Hah! My family lives in California, in fact my brother and I were just laughing about how Governor Moonbeam has been pumping sunshine up everyone's skirt there in the state. If Obamacare goes south they'll just lie about it, maybe find a way to slip them some federal money under the table to make the system float.

    Meanwhile businesses leaving the state, sales tax going up again in most of the counties, loads of state retirees headed back to work (they can't afford to be retired anymore). State's in a pretty sad place. Housing market is coming back but no one expects it to stay that way.

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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Except he will be able to. Idaho opted out of the Medicaid expansion. With a family and $19K income he will be one of those people who gets left in the gap. He won't be penalized because of his income so if desires not to participate in the national exchange, there is nothing to stop him or even discourage him.
    Well. Then he's a happy camper. Maybe. If the creek don't rise.
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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well. Then he's a happy camper. Maybe. If the creek don't rise.
    Now that my wife is working again, we are far outside the subsidy levels so we will be sticking with our high deductible policy for now. We, however, have the added benefit of knowing lots of people in the medical field socially or through blood that routine care is not an issue for us. I really wouldn't go completely without, especially with kids--they break easily I have discovered.

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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well. Then he's a happy camper. Maybe. If the creek don't rise.
    And he's complaining because if the creek does rise, he might not be able to stick everyone else with the bill.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    the best news for the PPACA would be if we decided to scrap it for UHC.

    i could be wrong, but my guess is that it's just going to result in a bunch of minimal coverage plans that weasel their way out of covering anything. at least it killed the preexisting condition BS. that's one good thing i can say about it, but that could have been done separately.

    they should have just let anyone buy into medicare. that would have been the best choice out of the options on the table. my guess is when the whole system collapses under its own weight, that will probably be what we build next.

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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the best news for the PPACA would be if we decided to scrap it for UHC.

    i could be wrong, but my guess is that it's just going to result in a bunch of minimal coverage plans that weasel their way out of covering anything. at least it killed the preexisting condition BS. that's one good thing i can say about it, but that could have been done separately.

    they should have just let anyone buy into medicare. that would have been the best choice out of the options on the table. my guess is when the whole system collapses under its own weight, that will probably be what we build next.
    I am not opposed to UHC so long as there is salary containment mechanisms. We would do well to pair that up with immigration reform to allow all comers in the nursing-doctor-health tech world.

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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I am not opposed to UHC so long as there is salary containment mechanisms. We would do well to pair that up with immigration reform to allow all comers in the nursing-doctor-health tech world.
    Salaries for whom? Physicians only constitute 8.6% of of all healthcare costs in this country, which mind you, is lower then almost any other country in the industrialized world.

    Besides, who are you to say what someone who obtains 16 years of secondary schooling is worth?

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    Re: "Some very good news for Obamacare"

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Salaries for whom? Physicians only constitute 8.6% of of all healthcare costs in this country, which mind you, is lower then almost any other country in the industrialized world.

    Besides, who are you to say what someone who obtains 16 years of secondary schooling is worth?
    In the case of UHC, one of the one's paying the bill. If we can get a doctor from India or Pakistan who will work for less, then we should get them. That is how supply and demand works.

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