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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Christians push a belief: the belief that there is a god. Pushing that belief in the government is a violation of the 1st Amendment, too. i.e. the government can't tell people that there IS a god, because it violates religious freedom.
    As we've been told ad nauseum, which is why I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of an atheist doing the same thing.
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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm a member of the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Nobody has ever proven that he doesn't exist, therefore he just does.

    Making up things that can't be proven, then claiming they're fact because they can't be disproven, is weak and a detriment to our society. Politicians' #1 loyalty should be to their constituents, not their imaginary friends.
    Denying the existence of a God without factual evidence is also 'making up things'. Now, provide tangible evidence that a God does not exist. Thanks.

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Denying the existence of a God without factual evidence is also 'making up things'. Now, provide tangible evidence that a God does not exist. Thanks.
    I don't have to, the burden of proof is on the believers. Until something is proven to exist, it doesn't. Prove there isn't an invisible unicorn having sex with you right now.

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    So an atheist legislator spoke about humanism instead of praying.


    Not surprising and I don't know what all the hoopla is about...

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You need to buy a dictionary and look up the word, "agnostic".
    He already understands it better than you do atheism.
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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    He already understands it better than you do atheism.
    Obviously, he doesn't.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Christians push a belief: the belief that there is a god. Pushing that belief in the government is a violation of the 1st Amendment, too. i.e. the government can't tell people that there IS a god, because it violates religious freedom.
    Members in government can believe in God, speak their minds about God, and can pray during government sessions. In no way does this set up laws/theocracy that supports a religion.

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Your faith that atheists believe there is no god is false.
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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Atheists push a belief: the belief that there is no god. Pushing that belief in the government is a violation of the 1st Amendment, too. i.e. the government can't tell people that there IS no god, because it violates religious freedom.
    Stephen F. Roberts sums up the situation very nicely:

    "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."


    Christianity: 2.1 billion
    Islam: 1.3 billion
    Hinduism: 900 million
    Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
    Buddhism: 376 million
    African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
    Sikhism: 23 million
    Juche: 19 million
    Spiritism: 15 million
    Judaism: 14 million
    Baha'i: 7 million
    Jainism: 4.2 million
    Shinto: 4 million
    Cao Dai: 4 million
    Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
    Tenrikyo: 2 million
    Neo-Paganism: 1 million
    Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
    Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
    Scientology: 500 thousand

    If you believe in God, you have chosen to reject Allah, Vishnu, Budda, Waheguru and all of the thousands of other gods that other people worship today. It is quite likely that you rejected these other gods without ever looking into their religions or reading their books.

    You simply absorbed the dominant faith in your home or in the society you grew up in.

    In the same way, the followers of all these other religions have chosen to reject God. You think their gods are imaginary, and they think your God is imaginary.

    In other words, each religious person on earth today arbitrarily rejects thousands of gods as imaginary, many of which he/she has never even heard of, and arbitrarily chooses to "believe" in one of them.

    WHICH god do you want running our government? Which god is for all people...everywhere?

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You need to buy a dictionary and look up the word, "agnostic".
    An agnostic accepts the possibility of a god. A passive atheist doesn't feel the need to accept the possibility.

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