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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    No lesser and expert on God than the Pope has come out in defense of athiests and believes that if people do good, even athiests will find a place in heaven.

    Pope Francis defends atheists

    As a non-practicing Catholic, this is the first thing a Pope has said in decades that I can get behind. There may be hope for the Catholic Church after all.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Bowing your head represents a recognition that there is something greater than yourself, an acknowledgement without which public service is impossible.
    What? I don't know if it's impossible, but I do suppose the People are greater than the State, so the State can bow its "head" to the People.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    "I would like to ask that you not bow your heads. I would like to ask that you take a moment to look around the room at all of the men and women here, in this moment, sharing together this extraordinary experience of being alive and of dedicating ourselves to working toward improving the lives of the people in our state."
    It's really more of an appeal to the pragmatic. By looking around, everyone for one brief moment can catch a glimpse of who will stab them in the back during the coming session, where they are in relation to others whom they need to stab in the back, and who has the sexiest aides and interns...

    Good show!

    But....

    There is some delusional fantasy going on there.... "improving the lives of the people of our state" ???



    Whew,... next he'll want to make the Unicorn the State Animal...

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Whew,... next he'll want to make the Unicorn the State Animal...
    Then they'd have something in common with Scotland.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    The words he quoted were: 'For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love.'

    What is wrong with what he said?
    "Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough."
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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    What do YOU see as greater than yourself?
    Depends on what define as 'greater'.
    "Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough."
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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Bowing your head represents a recognition that there is something greater than yourself, an acknowledgement without which public service is impossible.
    Your opinion noted as just that....an opinion.

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    If you're representing others who serve God, then you're doing both.
    But no representative in this country represents only those who serve god, and certainly not people serving the same god. Allegiance to god over country is unacceptable for an American lawmaker. They should have allegiance to country and people first, and everything else second.
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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    If you're representing others who serve God, then you're doing both.
    Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. God has nothing to do with the governments of man.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Atheist State Lawmaker Quotes Carl Sagan Instead of Doing Prayer Before House Ses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    But no representative in this country represents only those who serve god, and certainly not people serving the same god. Allegiance to god over country is unacceptable for an American lawmaker. They should have allegiance to country and people first, and everything else second.
    That's kind of the point of a representative government though... no representative is ever going to represent everyone. No representative is ever going to have allegiance to "the people" - just some of the people at any given time.

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