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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church Member Blames Oklahoma Tornado On Jason Collins' Coming O

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yeah, for starters. Evangelicals have indulged anti-gay rhetoric. They need to distance themselves from those who do the same.

    If evangelicals want to make heretical and ignorant interpretations of the gospel to indulge their fear and hatred of gays, that's their business. But at least they should pretend to condemn the outright ugliness of Westboro.

    It's heretical and ignorant to read the Bible as written? News to me...

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church Member Blames Oklahoma Tornado On Jason Collins' Coming O

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The articles on there are still very good and often wind up here on threads verbatim. There are so many splinter wings to the Repubs, all trying to out-fright each other. Which party do you suppose Westboro votes for the most? Do rightie talkers criticize them as lefties do? NO
    From what I have seen, yes they do. Westboro is not well like by members of both parties down here in Georgia.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church Member Blames Oklahoma Tornado On Jason Collins' Coming O

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    You don't think there are tens of millions of evangelicals in the US. Google it.
    i am sure there are, but does that mean everyone thinks the same thing...no.

    i am a evangelical as is my mother, and we think that the church is question, is not doing the lords work .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It's heretical and ignorant to read the Bible as written? News to me...
    Too complex a subject for here, but evangelical homophobia is heresy. Paul says so Romans 2:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i am sure there are, but does that mean everyone thinks the same thing...no.

    i am a evangelical as is my mother, and we think that the church is question, is not doing the lords work .
    They think gays are a threat. No doubt about it. It's bred into their particular heresy, which focuses on homophobia instead of the love of the gospel.

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church Member Blames Oklahoma Tornado On Jason Collins' Coming O

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Too complex a subject for here, but evangelical homophobia is heresy. Paul says so Romans 2:1.

    You are one to talk about ignorance. Romans 2:1 is talking about hypocrisy, of judging someone for doing something that you are also doing. It is a theme about judging wrongfully or by one's own preferences, not about saying "The bible says that is wrong".... which is what someone does when they say that a straightforward reading of Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:9–10 and, Jude 1:7 calls homosexual activity sin, in the New Testament.


    There are alternative interpretations, but calling the straightforward one heresy is quite a mouthful.

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church Member Blames Oklahoma Tornado On Jason Collins' Coming O

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    They think gays are a threat. No doubt about it. It's bred into their particular heresy, which focuses on homophobia instead of the love of the gospel.
    well i know already you going to be fired up by what i am going to say.

    but their are some people in every group who are some what of a threat, becuase every group is faction, and wants its special interest served, no matter what over the objections of other people.

    i am sure you would agree in the NRA, there are some extremist.

    some in the environmentalist movement, some in the every group.

    but tell me, if a christian sees sin, should that person act as though it does not exist?...should they remain silent, and go along with it as not to anger another person?

    Jesus spoke of sin, he stop anyone from engaging in it but once, while he was in the temple..... but he made clear ...sin is wrong.

    this church are zealots to the max becuase of their wild actions they take, ......but that does not make everyone, who speaks against the sin of homosexuality a zealot.
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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church Member Blames Oklahoma Tornado On Jason Collins' Coming O

    This phase of our history started with Anita Bryant and is ending with the Westboro Church; Maybe we can title this phase as "Going To The Way Stupid----40+ Years of Collective Idiocy in America" ?....................................

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church Member Blames Oklahoma Tornado On Jason Collins' Coming O

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You are one to talk about ignorance. Romans 2:1 is talking about hypocrisy, of judging someone for doing something that you are also doing. It is a theme about judging wrongfully or by one's own preferences, not about saying "The bible says that is wrong".... which is what someone does when they say that a straightforward reading of Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:9–10 and, Jude 1:7 calls homosexual activity sin, in the New Testament.


    There are alternative interpretations, but calling the straightforward one heresy is quite a mouthful.
    I love how evangelicals have to gloss the plain words of Paul.

    Paul says in Romans 1 that idolators were punished by God by instilling in them "unnatural" desires to have gay sex (note that this means they were heterosexual and note that the sin is idolatry -- which Paul later relates to greed -- not homosexuality).

    Then in Romans 2 he say "Therefore you have no excuse, O man, whoever you are [say an evangelical christian], when you judge another; for in passing judgment upon him you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, are doing the very same things"

    So Paul tells evangelicals NOT to judge gays, and what do they do: judge gays. Therefore, evangelicals stand judged.

    It's really that simple.

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church Member Blames Oklahoma Tornado On Jason Collins' Coming O

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I love how evangelicals have to gloss the plain words of Paul.

    Paul says in Romans 1 that idolators were punished by God by instilling in them "unnatural" desires to have gay sex (note that this means they were heterosexual and note that the sin is idolatry -- which Paul later relates to greed -- not homosexuality).

    Then in Romans 2 he say "Therefore you have no excuse, O man, whoever you are [say an evangelical christian], when you judge another; for in passing judgment upon him you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, are doing the very same things"

    So Paul tells evangelicals NOT to judge gays, and what do they do: judge gays. Therefore, evangelicals stand judged.

    It's really that simple.


    The ignorance displayed in your assertions here is truly astounding. Truly.

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