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CBS News reporter: My computer hacked too

Middleground said:
I am not in denial about all of that. I'm fully aware that Big Brother is alive and well and that the Obama Administration has done nothing to change that.

I just wanted to give you Fox Newsers a little bit of a reality check and inject some perspective here. Love the outrage over journalists being tapped when the owner of your preferred news service has been found guilty of doing just that. It's ****ing hilarious, actually.
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That is the problem with playing like you are stupid, sometimes you come off very convincingly. Now as to the Murdoch tapping scandal over in Britain, it of course has nothing to do with this issue. I would not be surprised to find that like me, cpwill found that story disgusting and has said so in several threads here at DP. Likewise I bet he supports the idea that all involved should be punished to the full extent of the law and then maybe a little extra. Since I tend to get my news from the BBC World channel and many online sources, not Fox News or any of the American cable news channels, I always laugh when you start another of your Fox harangues. Once again you have mistaken my calling out and making fun of the assorted nut jobs and whackos that run around displaying their Fox News Derangement Syndrome as making me, what was it? A Fox Newser? Really at the end of the day, all you did here was highlight that you are one of the Fox News Obsessives that feel the need to drag them into threads and stories they are not a part of. Which is not a "news" flash even though you prefer to call it reality checking. :lamo
 
cpwill said:
No, they have to be involved in it. You are responsible for everything that happens in your command. Not everything that happens. For example, Obama is not responsible for Syria gassing its' people. He would be responsible if we found out that CIA agents had sold him the chemical weapons to do so under his watch. Syria's actions are outside his command, the CIA's are inside his command.


This is not a terribly complicated concept, and frankly, I know enough about you at this point to know that you are smart enough to grasp it. Don't play dumb - no one here will believe you.
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So, like, Iran Contra would be a perfect example of an Administration's failures. I think I get you know.
 
Middleground said:
So, like, Iran Contra would be a perfect example of an Administration's failures. I think I get you know.
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Also, since this is my thread I'm going to ask that you either engage on the subject or quit trying to derail it. But only once then I'll pass it to appropriate parties.;)
 
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Middleground said:
So, like, Iran Contra would be a perfect example of an Administration's failures. I think I get you know.
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Yes, it would. In that case, actions were performed by people under the command (if not in the explicit direction) of the President - Reagan owns Iran Contra.
 
Middleground said:
You forgot to mention Murdoch himself. But yeah... all of 'em.
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:shrug: I don't pretend to be particularly well informed on the scandal. However, I would suspect that here we would see a similar dynamic to the Obama's-aids-knew-but-didn't-tell-him-about-the-IRS thing: one job of a subordinate is to maintain the boss's plausible deniability and/or keep him legally non-culpable.

Has started??? Tell me Will, when do you think all of this citizenry tappin' started? You make it seem like it was yesterday.
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I draw a sharp distinction between tapping citizens phone lines (which the FBI has been doing for decades) in order to serve national and domestic security and the tapping of citizens phone (or computer) lines in order to serve political ends. The first is a proper use of government power, the second is an abuse of it.

The next GOP tempted?
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Yes, they will be.

LOL Seriously, Will, where have you been???
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A few places.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: we are taught in the military that as a commander you are responsible for everything that happens or fails to happen in your command.


Obama = Responsibility but =/= Administration


As a general rule, this is the power of staffing. You don't have to direct if you fill the power slots with the right people who know what needs to be done, etc.
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I was more referring to the sheer volume of "bad thing happened=Obama DID it" lately.

Of course he's ultimately responsible, but its crazy knee jerk at this point to claim it was actually at his direction, as opposed to bureaucrats ****ing up, or investigating journalists who obtained classified material because that's what happens, or the IRS scrutinizing tax exempt groups who claim they don't want to pay taxes in their name.

Its a weird throw EVERYTHING against the wall and see if anything sticks, in the hopes that the smoke bombs imply fire.
 
cpwill said:
:D I can't wait to see what an Obama administration that no longer has the Press running interference for it, but rather fulfilling its' watchdog role looks like.
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Maybe Obama Shanghaied the wrong Americans this time; the liberal press. :hitsfan:

:lamo
 
Well, biting the AP hand wasn't too bright. And neither was going after Sharyn Atkisson, but the reason may be suggested here:

In 2012, CBS News accepted an Investigative Reporting Award given to Attkisson's reporting on ATF's Fast and Furious gunwalker controversy. The award was from Accuracy in Media, an American, non-profit news media watchdog group, and was presented at a Conservative Political Action Conference.[17] In June 2012, Attkisson's investigative reporting for the Gunwalker story also won the CBS Evening News the Radio and Television News Directors Association's National Edward R. Murrow Award for Excellence in Video Investigative Reporting. The award will be presented October 8, 2012 in New York City.[18] Additionally, in July 2012, Attkisson's Gunwalker: Fast and Furious reporting received an Emmy Award nomination for Outstanding Investigative Journalism.

Sharyl Attkisson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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