WH Senior Aides Knew Details Of IRS Probe But Didn’t Tell Obama, Spokesman Says

[The Prof]

WaPo: White House senior aides knew details of IRS probe but didn’t tell Obama, spokesman says

Senior White House officials, including Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, learned last month about a review by the Treasury Department’s inspector general into whether the Internal Revenue Service targeted conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, but they did not inform President Obama, the White House said Monday.

The acknowledgement is the White House’s latest disclosure in a piecemeal, sometimes confusing release of details concerning the extent to which White House officials knew of the IG’s findings that IRS officials engaged in the “inappropriate” targeting of conservative non-profits for heightened scrutiny. Previously, the White House said counsel Kathryn Ruemmler did not learn about the final results of the investigation until the week of April 22[SUP]nd[/SUP], and had not disclosed that McDonough and other aides had also been told about the investigation. On Monday, White House Spokesman Jay Carney said a member of Ruemmler’s staff learned of the probe the week of April 16; Ruemmler learned of the investigation on April 24th; and after that point she informed the chief of staff and other aides about the probe’s findings.

The White House has said President Obama did not learn of the IRS’s actions until he saw news reports on the matter earlier this month.

In a series of TV appearances on Sunday, White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer said the White House did not know the details of the investigation or its conclusion until it was released publicly last week, he said.

On Monday, Sens. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), who lead the Finance Committee, wrote to Steven T. Miller specifically requesting “documents relating to communications between any and all IRS employees and any and all White House employees, including but not limited to, the President, regarding the targeting of organizations” seeking tax exempt status. The senators also want to see “any written communication, memos, policy drafts, or other documents” related to the IRS’s consideration of tax-exempt status since 2009.

Miller is set to testify Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee alongside his predecessor, former IRS Comnmissioner Daniel Shulman, and J. Russell George, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration who wrote the audit report detailing how IRS employees improperly targeted certain groups.

On Wednesday, Shulman and George are set to testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, alongside Treasury Deputy Secretary Neal Wolin. George told the Ways and Means Committee last Friday that he first informed Wolin about his audit during a meeting last summer.

last friday, miller baldly and repeatedly lied to house ways and means, as former commissioner shulman did last year

Joe Crowley: Ex-IRS chief lied to Congress - The Hill

so now THE SENATE is getting involved, both finance and judiciary...

and the prevaricating potus is positioned in the impossible place of having to explain how his chief of staff knew and he didn't

obama lied---he lied to the press corps, he lied to the american people, he did NOT learn about his illicit irs from reading a newspaper

even the journolisters are jabbing

The White House on Monday once again added to the list of people who knew about the IRS investigation into its targeting of conservative groups — saying White House chief of staff Denis McDonough had been informed about a month ago.

Press secretary Jay Carney said again that no one had told President Barack Obama ahead of the first news reports: not his top aide McDonough, nor his chief counsel Kathy Ruemmler, nor anyone from the Treasury Department.

Monday’s revelation amounts to the fifth iteration of the Obama administration’s account of events, after initially saying that the White House had first learned of the controversy from the press.

The White House's Shifting IRS Story - Politico

it took 12 versions for this abject administration to get its benghazi talking points wrong

and now they're on their sixth iteration of the irs, and they're still fulla crap

this cannot continue, the white house press corps is gonna tear him and all of his into little auditable bits

it is absolutely impossible, and everyone knows it, for a white house chief of staff to be aware of a major issue or event without his chief executive boss being fully in the loop

anything else is, in addition to idiotic...

White House officials on Benghazi: We're the idiots - CBS News

beyond corrupt...

DOJ drops charges in Black Panther voter intimidation case - CNN

for a chief of staff to be apprised of major developments while his or her president is left in the dark is...

THE TWILIGHT ZONE THEME - YouTube

bizarre

why can't barack obama state unequivocally that he did not know what was going on at his irs for 2 years?

Obama pushes back on IRS, AP, Benghazi - POLITICO

what is he hiding?

 

[Grant]

White House senior aides knew details of IRS probe but didn’t tell Obama, spokesman says



last friday, miller baldly and repeatedly lied to house ways and means, as former commissioner shulman did last year

Dem: Ex-IRS chief lied to Congress - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

so now THE SENATE is getting involved, both finance and judiciary...

and the prevaricating potus is positioned in the impossible place of having to explain how his chief of staff knew and he didn't

obama lied---he lied to the press corps, he lied to the american people, he did NOT learn about his illicit irs from reading a newspaper

even the journolisters are jabbing

The White House
​

it took 12 versions for this abject administration to get its benghazi talking points wrong

and now they're on their sixth iteration of the irs, and they're still fulla crap

this cannot continue, the white house press corps is gonna tear him and all of his into little auditable bits

it is absolutely impossible, and everyone knows it, for a white house chief of staff to be aware of a major issue or event without his chief executive boss being fully in the loop

anything else is, in addition to idiotic...

Officials on Benghazi: "We made mistakes, but without malice" - CBS News

beyond corrupt...

Justice Department drops charges in voter intimidation case – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

for a chief of staff to be apprised of major developments while his or her president is left in the dark is...

THE TWILIGHT ZONE THEME - YouTube

bizarre

why can't barack obama state unequivocally that he did not know what was going on at his irs for 2 years?

Obama pushes back on IRS, AP, Benghazi - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

what is he hiding?

Only the mentally disadvantaged could possibly continue to support this president. He and his staff are a disgrace to the Presidency.

 

[Mithros]

Republicans Informed of IRS Investigation Last Year
Republicans Informed of IRS Investigation Last Year

The GOP had the same information the Whitehouse did.

 

[Gie]

Republicans Informed of IRS Investigation Last Year
Republicans Informed of IRS Investigation Last Year

The GOP had the same information the Whitehouse did.

To quote Bill Lombard, uh.............yeah....yeah uh ......no. We already have several threads full of hair brained "ideas" that this is some kind of damaging news flash. Quite seriously, it is like you did not read or can't actually understand what you actually linked to. Lot of that going around DP today. God spare me but I have to break out the cliche again. Reading is essential. Since you could not be bothered to do it, I'll leave the disappointing surprises for you as you await to world to join you in the fervent belief your article said a word about the "republicans" much less the "GOP". Why do people too lazy to read their own links bother to post them in the first place? It is like stepping on a rake and t-boning yourself in the face. Why do it? Aside from the comedic effect it supplies to those watching you do it?

 

[The Prof]

everyone knew...

except obama

still, they lied

Republicans are training their attacks on acting IRS Commissioner Steve Miller amid new revelations that he and the agency’s former top official knew employees were targeting conservative groups but failed to notify Congress despite repeated requests.

Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, and 10 other GOP lawmakers wrote to then-IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman on June 18, 2012, demanding answers on why the agency requested donor information from groups seeking nonprofit status.

By the time this letter was sent, Shulman and Miller, who was the deputy IRS commissioner at the time, had been aware of the extent of the targeting program for about a month.

Still, in a Sept. 11, 2012, response to the letter, Miller offered a broad interpretation of the law allowing the request for donor information and said nothing about the targeting practice.

The letters between Hatch and Miller are written in dry tax-speak but are shaping up as central to GOP claims that Miller hid what he knew about the targeting, even as Hatch and others asked the IRS directly — and pointedly — about whether it was going on.

But Miller’s reply gave no hint that he did, in fact, have knowledge about what Hatch was seeking.

Orrin Hatch: IRS purposefully misled me - Lauren French - POLITICO.com

more lies:

While this was happening, several committees in Congress were writing numerous letters to IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman to express concern because tea party groups were complaining of IRS harassment.

In Shulman's responses, he did not acknowledge targeting of tea party groups. At a congressional hearing March 22, 2012, Shulman was adamant in his denials. "There's absolutely no targeting. This is the kind of back and forth that happens to people" who apply for tax-exempt status, Shulman said at the House Ways and Means subcommittee hearing.

Report: IRS knew of targeting in 2011 - Philly.com

and more:

Michigan Rep. Sander Levin, the committee’s top Democrat, said Miller and former IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman had an “obligation” to inform the committee of the targeting program.

“Neither fulfilled their obligations,” he said.

Ousted IRS chief Steven Miller defiant as GOP attacks - Lauren French and Kelsey Snell - POLITICO.com

joe crowley from queens, ways and means last friday:

Dem: Ex-IRS chief lied to Congress - The Hill

why can't obama say flat out that he did not know what was going on at his irs for 2 years, why does he confine his remarks to knowledge of the tigta report?

and does he really expect anyone to believe that denis mcdonough, cos, knew tigta's conclusions while barack obama didn't?

seeya in senate judiciary tomorrow morning

seeya in the brady briefing room after

 

[The Prof]

wow

paranoia tricky dick nixon never knew, more like something outta stalin:

IRS headquarters in Washington denied that a no-talk rule was official policy because, after all, agency staffers still have a constitutional right to talk to whomever they want. "Our policy is that press inbounds (queries) are referred to the press office," a spokesman said. "But people have First Amendment rights, they are entitled to speak."

Asked whether employees were reminded of the official media policy this week, the spokesman said "no."

Not so, said IRS folks in Cincinnati. One of them, who asked not be named, told ABC News that security guards did remind employees of the official policy not to talk with the press – a warning cemented by the punch line "or risk losing our jobs."

Even leaders of the local union that represents the IRS workers under fire took the admonition to heart, hanging up on reporters who wanted to ask questions about the scandal. One longtime IRS worker and union member called the response by the National Treasury Employees Union "dazzling."

On Thursday morning, after news that Miller was sacked, two ABC News journalists walked into the Peck Federal Building in Cincinnati looking for answers. The newsmen were screened at the door by security. They emptied their pockets as instructed, removed their belts, then went through the metal detectors.

We wanted to ask who about made the decisions in the unit and when the profiling started. And whether those decision makers been identified yet.

But the answers – like the people involved – remained elusive.

As we traveled the public hallways of the building – watched over by security cameras – an armed uniformed police officer with the Federal Protective Service followed us. We were looking for a particular office—of someone who would not want to be seen talking to reporters--but chose to bypass it because of our official babysitter.

Asked why we were being escorted in a public building, the officer identified himself as Insp. Mike Finkelstein and said he was only trying to make sure that the newsmen were not a "nuisance." He brushed aside further questions. The cop said a supervisor would call to explain.

One of the reporters wanted to know if the act of following the journalists was an effort intended to scare off any federal employee who might have considered speaking to the press. That's sure what it looked like; and, even if that wasn't the goal, it was the effect.

As of Friday night, no supervisor had called back.

After ABC News phoned and e-mailed the spokespeople in Washington repeatedly for more than 24 hours, a low-level staffer with Homeland Security finally responded. "After review by a supervisor, it was determined that the inspector acted according to proper security procedures and that no improper conduct occurred," the spokesman said.

Whether improper conduct occurred at the IRS—and who was responsible for targeting the president's enemies, as some members of Congress have argued – will be subject to much more review.

IRS Scandal: Stonewalled in Cincinnati - ABC News

just WHAT are they hiding!

these people are not only corrupt, not only incompetent, they are beginning to come across as a little bit insane

stay tuned, what'll they do next...

 

[The Prof]

nyt today:

Senator Max Baucus, a Montana Democrat who is the chairman of the committee, and Senator Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, the ranking Republican, forwarded a six-page letter to Steven Miller, the acting I.R.S. commissioner, who announced his resignation last week. It contained 41 pointed questions about the I.R.S.’s efforts to single out for special scrutiny conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status. Those questions, which are to be answered by May 31, go well beyond the agency’s actions and address the questions Republicans have been asking for a week: Who in the Obama administration knew what? And when did they know it?

“Provide copies of all documents between I.R.S. employee(s) and anyone else regarding the targeting of applications based on the existence of certain phrases and/or subjecting those targeted applications to full development and heightened scrutiny,” the letter read.

“Was the decision to target any tax-exempt applications for review and subject them to full development or heightened scrutiny influenced or prompted in any way by political pressure directed at the I.R.S. from any members of the Congress or other elected officials?” it asked.

“Provide documents relating to communications between any and all I.R.S. employees and any and all White House employees, including, but not limited to, the president, regarding the targeting,” the letter said.

The document also demanded the identity “by name, grade and position title” of “every I.R.S. supervisor, I.R.S. manager or other I.R.S. employee who became aware that any individual in the White House or Treasury Department became aware of any improper targeting.”

The Finance Committee will convene a hearing on the issue on Tuesday featuring Douglas Shulman, a Bush administration appointee who led the I.R.S. while much of the targeting was taking place and who has not yet been questioned.

“I have a hunch that a lot more is going to come out, frankly. It’s broader than the current focus,” Mr. Baucus said on Bloomberg Government’s “Capitol Gains” television program. “And I think it’s important that we have the hearings, and I think that will encourage other information to come out that has not yet come out. I suspect that we will learn more in the next several days, maybe the next couple, three weeks, which adds more context to all of this.”

Senate Panel Asks I.R.S. Chief to Detail Communications With White House - NYTimes.com

members of congress, huh?

franken? schumer? shaheen?

stay tuned

 

[wbcoleman]

Yeah, right.

 

[cpwill]

nyt today:

Senate Panel Asks I.R.S. Chief to Detail Communications With White House - NYTimes.com

members of congress, huh?

franken? schumer? shaheen?

stay tuned

Bauccus either doesn't care anymore, or doesn't want his legacy to be the trainwreck. The next few months are going to be interesting.

 

[American]

To quote Bill Lombard, uh.............yeah....yeah uh ......no. We already have several threads full of hair brained "ideas" that this is some kind of damaging news flash. Quite seriously, it is like you did not read or can't actually understand what you actually linked to. Lot of that going around DP today. God spare me but I have to break out the cliche again. Reading is essential. Since you could not be bothered to do it, I'll leave the disappointing surprises for you as you await to world to join you in the fervent belief your article said a word about the "republicans" much less the "GOP". Why do people too lazy to read their own links bother to post them in the first place? It is like stepping on a rake and t-boning yourself in the face. Why do it? Aside from the comedic effect it supplies to those watching you do it?

So they knew about the investigation, so what? They didn't know the results until recently. How is this damning of the Republicans? This doesn't exonerate the WH or Treasury for what they did, target rightwing groups so they were less effective during the Presidential campaign. So this apology from the IRS was an attemtp to get ahead of the **** hitting the fan, and wasn't even sincere. Seems more damning of the Administration than ever.

 

[American]

Bauccus either doesn't care anymore, or doesn't want his legacy to be the trainwreck. The next few months are going to be interesting.

Of course not, he authored that Obamacare POS, and is now retiring so he won't be around to catch blame.

 

[Gie]

So they knew about the investigation, so what? They didn't know the results until recently. How is this damning of the Republicans? This doesn't exonerate the WH or Treasury for what they did, target rightwing groups so they were less effective during the Presidential campaign. So this apology from the IRS was an attemtp to get ahead of the **** hitting the fan, and wasn't even sincere. Seems more damning of the Administration than ever.

You sure you meant to reply to me? Because I'm going to have to, for about the 9th time in the last 24 hours, point out the old cliche, reading is essential. Cripes what is in the water at DP?

 

[Fenton]

Republicans Informed of IRS Investigation Last Year
Republicans Informed of IRS Investigation Last Year

The GOP had the same information the Whitehouse did.

So EVERYBODY in Washington knew but the President ?

Does that sound plausible ? That his CoS knew but never let him in on it ?

Imagine if this was happening under Bush ? Would you accept that answer.

 

[Mithros]

To quote Bill Lombard, uh.............yeah....yeah uh ......no. We already have several threads full of hair brained "ideas" that this is some kind of damaging news flash. Quite seriously, it is like you did not read or can't actually understand what you actually linked to. Lot of that going around DP today. God spare me but I have to break out the cliche again. Reading is essential. Since you could not be bothered to do it, I'll leave the disappointing surprises for you as you await to world to join you in the fervent belief your article said a word about the "republicans" much less the "GOP". Why do people too lazy to read their own links bother to post them in the first place? It is like stepping on a rake and t-boning yourself in the face. Why do it? Aside from the comedic effect it supplies to those watching you do it?

in June 2012 - months before last year's the Presidential election. Republicans who requested the investigation were also told about it at approximately the same time.​

It was easy to miss, hiding in the first sentence. The point is merely that lots of people knew about the investigation, but no one did or said anything about it because you're not supposed to do or say anything about an investigation until it's finished.

There's no need to be overtly hostile, but if you're going to be, you should at least have the courtesy to be correct.

 

[Mithros]

So EVERYBODY in Washington knew but the President ?

Does that sound plausible ? That his CoS knew but never let him in on it ?

Imagine if this was happening under Bush ? Would you accept that answer.

I'd be shocked if anyone had told the President before the results of the investigation were known. Why would I have a problem if Bush did the same thing? The president doesn't look at every little thing that's being investigated. There are a number of watchdog groups investigating lots of things that would be huge scandals if the were true, they just aren't true.

And why would staffers brief the President on something which any action he took would be illegal? There's no upside, especially since knowing about would make him politically vulnerable.

 

[Zyphlin]

Moderator's Warning:

Moved to appropriate forum

 

[Fenton]

I'd be shocked if anyone had told the President before the results of the
investigation were known. Why would I have a problem if Bush did the same thing? The president doesn't look at every little thing that's being investigated. There are a number of watchdog groups investigating lots of things that would be huge scandals if the were true, they just aren't true.

And why would staffers brief the President on something which any action he took would be illegal? There's no upside, especially since knowing about would make him politically vulnerable.

Because it's just not feasable. To think his General Council knew weeks before Obama claimed he found out about the IGs report but his Council didn't inform him is a sorry excuse.

Everyday we're finding out that more and more people knew and Obama and the Democrats best defense is to admit their President is absolutley detached. Incompetent.

As that Greasy Low Life Axelrod said, the Federal Govt is too big. Really ? And those clowns want to make it bigger ?

I know why you think it's a feasable excuse, because you support his ideology, but don't expect everyone else to be either so blinded or naive.

Of course they told him. He knew immediately of a scandal that could easily get out of hand for him and his party.

They told him as soon as possible so they could start working on strategy's and so they could get their story straight.
Same with Benghazi.

Obama was there the entire time and NO ONE should be so gullible to think otherwise.

When Bush was in office the left invented scandal after scandal, now that legitimate scandal after scandals exist, they try to down play illegal activities and the violation of civil rights by Obama's administration.

It's going to get much worse for Obama, how long are you going to defend the undefensable ?

 

[Gie]

in June 2012 - months before last year's the Presidential election. Republicans who requested the investigation were also told about it at approximately the same time.​

It was easy to miss, hiding in the first sentence. The point is merely that lots of people knew about the investigation, but no one did or said anything about it because you're not supposed to do or say anything about an investigation until it's finished.

There's no need to be overtly hostile, but if you're going to be, you should at least have the courtesy to be correct.

I wonder whatever you think I was not correct about? That dozens of posters have already tried unsuccessfully to try and make hey of the fact that Issa was advised that IRS was investigating conservatives? The collective answer is a giant so what? Aside from that bromide, the fact that you still think the article says a thing about republicans (plural) or the GOP at all? Not surprisingly that is not contained in the article, much less the first sentence. Proving once again the age old axiom, reading really is essential.

 

[dirtpoorchris]

Soooo... Basically the President is just a figure head and his minions are running the show for him?

 

[head of joaquin]

So EVERYBODY in Washington knew but the President ?

Does that sound plausible ? That his CoS knew but never let him in on it ?

Imagine if this was happening under Bush ? Would you accept that answer.

Issa apparently knew -- it's come out he was tampering with the investigation from the start.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-issa-communicated-multiple-times-2012-a.html

 

[The Prof]

tampering (huffpo link above):

MENENDEZ: Inspector General, did Chairman Issa send a letter on August 3rd of 2012 to all the inspector generals reminding them that under the Inspector Generals Act, it requires IGs to report particularly flagrant problems to Congress through the agency head within seven days, via what has been known as the seven-day letter? Did you receive that letter? And, if so, did you respond to inform Chairman Isaa of your investigation into the IRS?

GEORGE: Senator, we did receive the letter, and Chairman Issa's committee was the first to actually contact us regarding this matter. And so through the course of engaging the review, on occasion we have had communications with his staff.

MENENDEZ: In 2012?

GEORGE: And since then, yes.

LOL!

new jersey senator robt menendez, by the way, is currently under fbi investigation

Grand jury investigating Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), people familiar with probe say - The Washington Post

everyone knew, shulman, miller, lerner, ruemmler, mcdonough, george, lew...

everyone except obama

still, they lied

Republicans are training their attacks on acting IRS Commissioner Steve Miller amid new revelations that he and the agency’s former top official knew employees were targeting conservative groups but failed to notify Congress despite repeated requests.

Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, and 10 other GOP lawmakers wrote to then-IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman on June 18, 2012, demanding answers on why the agency requested donor information from groups seeking nonprofit status.

By the time this letter was sent, Shulman and Miller, who was the deputy IRS commissioner at the time, had been aware of the extent of the targeting program for about a month.

Still, in a Sept. 11, 2012, response to the letter, Miller offered a broad interpretation of the law allowing the request for donor information and said nothing about the targeting practice.

The letters between Hatch and Miller are written in dry tax-speak but are shaping up as central to GOP claims that Miller hid what he knew about the targeting, even as Hatch and others asked the IRS directly — and pointedly — about whether it was going on.

But Miller’s reply gave no hint that he did, in fact, have knowledge about what Hatch was seeking.

Orrin Hatch: IRS purposefully misled me - Lauren French - POLITICO.com

more lies:

While this was happening, several committees in Congress were writing numerous letters to IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman to express concern because tea party groups were complaining of IRS harassment.

In Shulman's responses, he did not acknowledge targeting of tea party groups. At a congressional hearing March 22, 2012, Shulman was adamant in his denials. "There's absolutely no targeting. This is the kind of back and forth that happens to people" who apply for tax-exempt status, Shulman said at the House Ways and Means subcommittee hearing.

Report: IRS knew of targeting in 2011 - Philly.com

and more:

Michigan Rep. Sander Levin, the committee’s top Democrat, said Miller and former IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman had an “obligation” to inform the committee of the targeting program.

“Neither fulfilled their obligations,” he said.

Ousted IRS chief Steven Miller defiant as GOP attacks - Lauren French and Kelsey Snell - POLITICO.com

joe crowley from queens, ways and means last friday:

Dem: Ex-IRS chief lied to Congress - The Hill

why can't obama say flat out that he did not know what was going on at his irs for 2 years, why does he confine his remarks to knowledge of the tigta report?

and does he really expect anyone to believe that denis mcdonough, cos, knew tigta's conclusions while barack obama didn't?

seeya in evil issa's awful oversight tomorrow

seeya in the brady briefing room all year

 

[Mithros]

I wonder whatever you think I was not correct about? That dozens of posters have already tried unsuccessfully to try and make hey of the fact that Issa was advised that IRS was investigating conservatives? The collective answer is a giant so what? Aside from that bromide, the fact that you still think the article says a thing about republicans (plural) or the GOP at all? Not surprisingly that is not contained in the article, much less the first sentence. Proving once again the age old axiom, reading really is essential.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the GOP being informed, just as there is nothing wrong with people in the White Hous being informed. Being informed that an investigation is occurring is not a scandal. It is not illegal, improper, underhanded, or in anyway reprehensible. However, acting on that information can be. So unless someone acted on the that information improperly, there is no scandal.

People in the Treasury knew, people in the White House knew, and GOPers in the House knew. So what????? It's not a scandal because there's no indication that anyone interfered with the investigation or tried to spin it politically before the IG report was finished.

Do you deny that house GOP leaders were made aware of the investigation? If the answer is no, then I have no idea what you're ranting on about.

I quoted an article titled “Republicans Informed of IRS Investigation Last Year”. In the first sentence the article says “Republicans who requested the investigation were also told about it at approximately the same time.” My point was that Republicans also knew that there was an IG investigation into these allegations. That's the only point that I've made and it is easily verifiable with alternate sources.

But please, It's quite amusing to read someone criticize my reading comprehension.

 

[Gie]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the GOP being informed, just as there is nothing wrong with people in the White Hous being informed. Being informed that an investigation is occurring is not a scandal. It is not illegal, improper, underhanded, or in anyway reprehensible. However, acting on that information can be. So unless someone acted on the that information improperly, there is no scandal.

People in the Treasury knew, people in the White House knew, and GOPers in the House knew. So what????? It's not a scandal because there's no indication that anyone interfered with the investigation or tried to spin it politically before the IG report was finished.

Do you deny that house GOP leaders were made aware of the investigation? If the answer is no, then I have no idea what you're ranting on about.

I quoted an article titled “Republicans Informed of IRS Investigation Last Year”. In the first sentence the article says “Republicans who requested the investigation were also told about it at approximately the same time.” My point was that Republicans also knew that there was an IG investigation into these allegations. That's the only point that I've made and it is easily verifiable with alternate sources.

But please, It's quite amusing to read someone criticize my reading comprehension.

This was your ball of wax, not mine. You dragged it into a thread about the administration as if it was relevant. I asked you so what? It is quite amusing that you have your panties in a wad because I pointed out that we do in fact have several threads were posters tried unsuccessfully to make hey of the fact that Issa knew that conservatives were being targeted. You seem to have thought that meant something, what was that something? That Issa and the republicans, nay not just republicans but THE GOP, were the ones targeting conservatives with the IRS? Do you even have a point? What ever was it supposed to be? Let me know when you have it all worked out in your head finally.

 

[Mithros]

This was your ball of wax, not mine. You dragged it into a thread about the administration as if it was relevant. I asked you so what? It is quite amusing that you have your panties in a wad because I pointed out that we do in fact have several threads were posters tried unsuccessfully to make hey of the fact that Issa knew that conservatives were being targeted. You seem to have thought that meant something, what was that something? That Issa and the republicans, nay not just republicans but THE GOP, were the ones targeting conservatives with the IRS? Do you even have a point? What ever was it supposed to be? Let me know when you have it all worked out in your head finally.

Being aware of an investigation is not the same thing as doing the thing being investigated. The OP posted that people in the administration knew. I posted that Republicans also knew.

But troll away.

 

[Gie]

Being aware of an investigation is not the same thing as doing the thing being investigated. The OP posted that people in the administration knew. I posted that Republicans also knew.

But troll away.

So you still can't say what the relevance of your link about Issa being aware of this investigation has to do with this thread. That was obvious the moment you tried to drag in the republicans and the GOP. So to whom you think you are lecturing these redundant points that not one person (unless they are living in a cave) is unaware is a study in self indulgent non sense. The fact that Issa knew there was an investigation is irrelevant to the fact that we now know WH senior aides (which was a NEW revelation when it was posted) were in fact aware of this investigation and claiming they did not tell the POTUS. But I suppose Issa's knowledge of the IRS shenanigans could end up being quite relevant in the end. Issa said recently he has been investigating and working on this matter a while now. Might just turn out he has more up his sleeve about what the IRS has been up to, having been aware of it, in a feed fools enough rope to hang themselves with way. So again, reading being essential, when you try to drag the republicans and the GOP into a thread about the new revelation that WH aides are NOW said to have known about this, whereas they were not supposed to have before? Try to make it have some relevance outside of an idiotic bromide, which to all appearances looks like a jerk defense of the administration. Not a very intelligent or relevant one, but again this was your ball of stinky earwax not mine.:2razz: