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    Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

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    Re: Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    It might once Obama's not in office any more. After all, it holds a lot of republican ideas.

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    Re: Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

    Not a bad thought from the President. It was one of the common talking points against the bill, was that once it starts it won't stop. Those in support of the bill thought that the good would dramatically outweigh whatever problems would surface, and opposition to the bill would gradually diminish.
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    Re: Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It might once Obama's not in office any more. After all, it holds a lot of republican ideas.
    Then where is tort reform?

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    Re: Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    I think Snowe is right. In the latest poll I seen 51% of all Americans view Obamacare in the unfavorable light while 43% view it as favorable. When it passed 58% were against it and 39% for it. But this latest poll shows an increase in the unfavorable states from just two months ago when 49% viewed in as unfavorable to 46% favorable.

    I think this means that the population was moving in the direction of Obamacare very slowly over a 2 year period, but now they have shifted again to moving against Obamacare where they were when it was first passed. If implementation results in a train wreck as there has been a lot of talk lately of happening, I look for this to become a hot election issue and perhaps hot enough for the GOP to gain the senate.
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    Re: Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Then where is tort reform?
    1st, I did say all republican ideas were in the Bill.

    2nd, states have done tort reform with no noticeable change in costs. So while I don't object to reasonable tort reform, it is too hyped by many republicans. It would at best have limited effected.

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    Re: Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

    Polling went up a few months after it was passed to above 50% but that will likely change once people start getting smacked with the reality beginning in October.

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    Re: Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    1st, I did say all republican ideas were in the Bill.
    One can keep saying this until the cows come in, but the reality is that the scheme got one Republican vote in the House and zero in the Senate. The ideas obviously weren't TOO Republican!

    But isn't this really beside the point? The Democrats were banking on the notion that it was OK to pass the scheme in the face of clear cut public opposition because they assumed that the opposition would dissipate. But it hasn't, and it won't.
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    Re: Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    One can keep saying this until the cows come in, but the reality is that the scheme got one Republican vote in the House and zero in the Senate. The ideas obviously weren't TOO Republican!

    But isn't this really beside the point? The Democrats were banking on the notion that it was OK to pass the scheme in the face of clear cut public opposition because they assumed that the opposition would dissipate. But it hasn't, and it won't.
    As always, two different issues. I said nothing about the vote, as the decision not to support Obama on anything had already been made. Instead, try and deny that these were not ideas previously put forth by republicans.

    Healthcare reform is too often tainted with demonization and misinformation. The history on efforts at reform is full of this. And this leads more often to nothing getting done at all. This time it led to a poor choice over both a better (the public option) and worse choice (doing nothing once more).

    If we want better, we have to grow up and through the demonization and discuss this like adults wanting to solve a real problem.

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    Re: Snowe: President thought opposition to health law would eventually fade away

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As always, two different issues. I said
    nothing about the vote, as the decision
    not to support Obama on anything had already been made. Instead, try and deny that these were not ideas previously put forth by republicans.

    Healthcare reform is too often tainted with demonization and misinformation. The history on efforts at reform is full of this. And this leads more often to nothing getting done at all. This time it led to a poor choice over both a better (the public option) and worse choice (doing nothing once more).

    If we want better, we have to grow up and through the demonization and discuss this like adults wanting to solve a real problem.
    Really ? Aside from your mitigations and BS feel good "work together" rhetoric the truth about this bill was it was soley a Democrat bill, with NO Republican input prior to this disaster being passed.

    So you can't arbitrarily blame this on Republican ideas when the GOPs idea's at the time were being ignored.

    The damage this bill has already done has been catastrophic, as Libs afraid of the truth use every other excuse under the sun to explain the last 4.5 years of stagnation, shrinking of the middle class, rising poverty levels and record increases in Dependency.

    How stupid is it in a free market society for a Corrupt administration to arbitrarily mandate increasing cost on every bussiness and private citizen ?

    It's SERIOUSLY stupid, and in no way was the law, a law "we had to pass before we knew what was in it" a Republican bill.

    I know your memory can't be that short to forget the Republicand ideas at the time.

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