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    Re: Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Why should the US be entitled to income tax revenue from sales not in the United States of products not made in the United States? Maybe North Korea should make a claim and see how that goes?
    We invest enough in foreign infrastructure that off shore companies make use of to justify it.
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    Re: Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Didn't a recent SCOTUS ruling called Citizens United change that? Don't the individuals who make corporate decisions have any personal liability? Are constructs sentient?
    No, Citizens United rules that people have a right to free speech, whether they are doing it themselves, or using a construct. They ruled that corporations are the people who make them.

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    Re: Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes

    Then don't you think it's unfair to allow corporations to commit crimes without traditional punishment? Or are you OK with that? It seems very unfair to me.





    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No, Citizens United rules that people have a right to free speech, whether they are doing it themselves, or using a construct. They ruled that corporations are the people who make them.

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    Re: Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No, Citizens United rules that people have a right to free speech, whether they are doing it themselves, or using a construct. They ruled that corporations are the people who make them.
    Then we should be able to sue those people individually for what the "construct" does. But we can't. The rightwing supreme court really blew this one, as usual.

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    Re: Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes

    We should simply tax all global income of US corporations including any spin offs without credit for foreign taxation.

    That would force them to stop seeking out tax shelters and pay their fair share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Then we should be able to sue those people individually for what the "construct" does. But we can't. The rightwing supreme court really blew this one, as usual.
    Of course these individuals can be sued. In fact, they can even be jailed.

    Not surprising you've been taught to believe otherwise.

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    Re: Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Of course these individuals can be sued. In fact, they can even be jailed.

    Not surprising you've been taught to believe otherwise.
    Jesus man, your ignorance of corporate law is massive.

    Shareholders can't be sued individally for corporate actions. Only their stake in the corproration is at risk. This is the very core of the corporate structure.

    NEXT RIGHTWING MEME!

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    Re: Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Jesus man, your ignorance of corporate law is massive.

    Shareholders can't be sued individally for corporate actions. Only their stake in the corproration is at risk. This is the very core of the corporate structure.

    NEXT RIGHTWING MEME!
    Of course, you've just proved yourself the fool.

    Please continue.

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    Re: Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Of course, you've just proved yourself the fool.

    Please continue.
    Wow, talk about a witty reply. So you think shareholders are personally liable for corporations they have stock in?

    BWHAAHHAHAHHAHAH!

    God the, tea party is all knownothing all the time.

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    Re: Senate investigators: Apple sheltered $44 billion from taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That has nothing to do with me complying with their desire to have access to my money. Usually when someone is trying to take something from me without my consent I will do everything in my power to resist. The government is no different. I don't care if the government doesn't like people putting money in off shore accounts. I just don't. They have the power to tax and I have the power to make it hard on them by hiding what is mine.
    This is kinda why the articles of confederation failed.

    But if those companies use American resources and infrastructure and government which is funded by American tax payers, then they can pay up to help fund all the things they use. There's no such thing as a free lunch
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