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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    So like I've been saying, if you don't have a problem with the PATRIOT Act, you shouldn't have a problem with the government reviewing that reporter's phone records:

    Obama administration defends collecting telephone records of US citizens - The Washington Post

    The FISA court order, signed by Judge Roger Vinson, compelled Verizon to provide the NSA with electronic copies of “all call detail records or telephony metadata created by Verizon for communications between the United States and abroad” or “wholly within the United States, including local telephone calls,” The Guardian said.

    The law on which the order explicitly relies is the “business records” provision of the USA Patriot Act.
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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    So like I've been saying, if you don't have a problem with the PATRIOT Act, you shouldn't have a problem with the government reviewing that reporter's phone records:

    Obama administration defends collecting telephone records of US citizens - The Washington Post

    And like Ive been saying, youre wrong. Theres nothing wrong with the Patriot ACT. Its the people who abuse it, and when its used in conflict with explicit constitutional provisions.

    And like Ive been saying, youre wrong. Theres nothing wrong with the Patriot ACT. Its the people who abuse it, and when its used in conflict with explicit constitutional provisions.


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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    This ought to be fun. The apologists are probably twisting hard right now to defend a practice that is finally affecting them. After we dismiss the "it's Bush's fault" posts we can get to the business of defining exactly where the lines are and how much liberty the Obamabots are willing to give up for their own good. I seriously doubt we are going to be able to change it, but it will be interesting to see if the metadata collected includes GPS information. If so, it may be possible to use this information to enforce existing driving and texting laws. GPS information would be able to indicate travelling speed, time of day would indicate commute times, your ticket could simply be added to your cell phone bill. Or better yet, for those of you who still support Obamacare, the provision that allows direct access to bank accounts for billing purposes could be used to simple draft the fines from your account. As with the IRS, it would be up to you to dispute the charges after the fact.

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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    And like Ive been saying, youre wrong. Theres nothing wrong with the Patriot ACT. Its the people who abuse it, and when its used in conflict with explicit constitutional provisions.

    By this statement, you demonstrate either a) your complete ignorance of the US Constitution, or b) your utter contempt for that document.

    Either way, it's subjects like you that empower tyranny.

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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    By this statement, you demonstrate either a) your complete ignorance of the US Constitution, or b) your utter contempt for that document.

    Either way, it's subjects like you that empower tyranny.
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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Ad hominem.
    Not really, it's just a reply to your previous post in which you make the specious claim that on this issue the Constitution has been obeyed. If you think you can defend your position, give it a shot.

    No ad hom, just the brutal truth that you would rather not address in a substantive post.

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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    And like Ive been saying, youre wrong. Theres nothing wrong with the Patriot ACT. Its the people who abuse it, and when its used in conflict with explicit constitutional provisions.

    This was done via a court order, just as it was "supposed" to be done under the law. How can it be abuse of the law when it was used in a way it was designed to be used -- just because you don't like this particular use?
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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Fox isn't really news. So there is that to consider.
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    Really? Thats what your going with?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Have you no sense of humor?

    See post 7 for a sober look at the reality/
    Ohhh, so you were only joking when you stated that "Fox isn't really news"_

    Thank you for clearing that up, calamity!
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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Ohhh, so you were only joking when you stated that "Fox isn't really news"_

    Thank you for clearing that up, calamity!
    Fox and News is oxymoronic.

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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Fox and News is oxymoronic.
    You must have viewed quite a bit of Fox News to have gained such amazing insight on their reporting_

    Surely your opinion is not based on ideopolitical bias or left-wing propaganda?!

    Would you care to recommend a cable or network news organization which you feel is worthy of your respect?

    You know what I'm talking about calamity__One that truly reports "fair and balanced" trustworthy news?
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