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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    I wonder how many supporters of the PATRIOT Act are having a problem with this.

    After all, if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry about.

    Right?
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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    And I agree, im torn. Its certainly a crime to leak classified information, but for the press to try and uncover it?
    Freedoms aren't unconditional. Regardless, aiding and abetting someone else in breaking the law should remain illegal in itself, whether you're part of the press or not.

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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I wonder how many supporters of the PATRIOT Act are having a problem with this.

    After all, if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry about.

    Right?
    Then I guess you would not mind anyone looking into your bedroom spying on you at night. I mean if you've got nothing to hide, what's there to worry about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Then I guess you would not mind anyone looking into your bedroom spying on you at night. I mean if you've got nothing to hide, what's there to worry about?
    I think maybe you missed what was, to me at least, obvious sarcasm. The point I'm making is that people who are okay with the PATRIOT Act should not be complaining about any of this.
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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I wonder how many supporters of the PATRIOT Act are having a problem with this.

    After all, if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry about.

    Right?
    I'm a supporter of the PA, original and PA Part Deux. I have no problem with it if they got a legal warrant under the FISA requirement for such AND they were targetting the leak (and not the reporter or the news agency). The fellow they exposed should go down (Kim). However, the reporter was doing his constitutionally protected duty.

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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I wonder how many supporters of the PATRIOT Act are having a problem with this.

    After all, if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry about.

    Right?

    The purpose of the patriot act is help catch enemies trying to kill americans (counterterrorism), not to catch reporters reporting information. I dont think people have a problem with working with the govt to protect us form invasion.

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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Freedoms aren't unconditional. Regardless, aiding and abetting someone else in breaking the law should remain illegal in itself, whether you're part of the press or not.
    Freedom of the press is unique in that its codified in the constitution and therefore supreme to everything else. THere is no protection of secrets in the constitution.

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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    The purpose of the patriot act is help catch enemies trying to kill americans (counterterrorism), not to catch reporters reporting information. I dont think people have a problem with working with the govt to protect us form invasion.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm a supporter of the PA, original and PA Part Deux. I have no problem with it if they got a legal warrant under the FISA requirement for such AND they were targetting the leak (and not the reporter or the news agency). The fellow they exposed should go down (Kim). However, the reporter was doing his constitutionally protected duty.
    I haven't seen any indication that the Justice Department is going after the reporter -- everything I've seen is about the pending prosecution of the reporter's source. They have to investigate the reporter to figure out if he got classified information so that they can go after the individual responsible for leaking it.
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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I haven't seen any indication that the Justice Department is going after the reporter -- everything I've seen is about the pending prosecution of the reporter's source. They have to investigate the reporter to figure out if he got classified information so that they can go after the individual responsible for leaking it.
    I was responding to your patriot act rhetoric.

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    Re: DOJ tracked movements, phone records of Fox News reporter

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I was responding to your patriot act rhetoric.
    You don't think that pursuing a leak of classified information is as high a priority as counterterrorism? Aren't there many possible scenarios where the two go hand-in-hand? If so, shouldn't someone who is okay with the PATRIOT Act be okay with this investigation?
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