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    Re: $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Who cares? If someone spends their money foolishly, that's on them. It's not like they're going to get any MORE money because they spent some on the lotto.
    (a-x)+(b-y)=(a-y)+(b-x)

    There you have it. That equation proves that if someone is receiving financial assistance from the government, wasting their paycheck is equivalent to wasting the money they're given. Those who need help should be helping themselves first.
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    Re: $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I'm not "assigning my values", but rather applying mathematics and logic. Someone who pays to go to a rock concert is purchasing entertainment. Since fun is a part of life, they have a goal in mind of enjoyment when they purchase the tickets and there is a reasonable expectation that it will be fulfilled when they attend. Lottery tickets, on the other hand, are purchased with the hopes of winning money. I think it's fair to say, those who play don't get much entertainment out of watching the balls pulled roll down the slope, especially when they don't match the numbers they chose. Instead, their goal when they purchased the tickets was to win money. However, the odds are terrible of their goal in this case. Pure mathematics, in particular the law of large numbers, shows that anyone repeatedly playing the lottery will go broke on the long run almost surely.
    people that purchase a lottery ticket must enjoy the thrill, or they wouldn't do it.

    you are assigning your values. you don't value the enjoyment of watching the balls and hoping you picked the correct balls.

    others do value it.

    I don't get NASCAR. people actually pay money to watch a machine go around a track? stupid!

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    Re: $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    (a-x)+(b-y)=(a-y)+(b-x)

    There you have it. That equation proves that if someone is receiving financial assistance from the government, wasting their paycheck is equivalent to wasting the money they're given. Those who need help should be helping themselves first.
    So, it's their problem. Again, they don't receive any more money if they spend what they're given foolishly. I agree that it's a stupid purchase when you're collecting welfare, but it has no effect on the taxpayer.

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    $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Mathematician doesn't think playing the lottery is entertainment, but I know plenty of people, even rich and well off people who do. Everyone's idea of entertainment is different.

    In my view, buying a lottery ticket is the same thing as buying a raffle ticket for your local school/church/whatever fundraiser. You're helping their cause, and you have next to nothing odds of winning something. And a fundraiser is all that the lottery is.
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    Re: $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Mathematician doesn't think playing the lottery is entertainment, but I know plenty of people, even rich and well off people who do. Everyone's idea of entertainment is different.

    In my view, buying a lottery ticket is the same thing as buying a raffle ticket for your local school/church/whatever fundraiser. You're helping their cause, and you have next to nothing odds of winning something. And a fundraiser is all that the lottery is.
    I can agree with him to an extent though. Welfare recipients maybe should get a card that doesn't allow them to purchase things like lottery tickets. We taxpayers are paying for them to have the necessities for survival for them and ESPECIALLY their children, not for them to play games with the money. OTH, they are the ones who will suffer for spending the money foolishly.

    Of course, if they were to win, then it wasn't so foolish after all.

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    $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I can agree with him to an extent though. Welfare recipients maybe should get a card that doesn't allow them to purchase things like lottery tickets. We taxpayers are paying for them to have the necessities for survival for them and ESPECIALLY their children, not for them to play games with the money. OTH, they are the ones who will suffer for spending the money foolishly.

    Of course, if they were to win, then it wasn't so foolish after all.
    I agree that there should be something in place that bans welfare and food stamp recipients from playing the lottery.

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    Re: $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I agree that there should be something in place that bans welfare and food stamp recipients from playing the lottery.
    Tobacco and alcohol too. Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for luxuries.

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    Re: $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I didn't win.
    Neither, but I'm happy at the thought that maybe an ordinary person will be able to now to extraordinary things.

    And BTW, I live in a state that doesn't have an income tax, so when I put my dollar in the grocery store vending machine, I know that I'm helping keep it that way.

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    $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Tobacco and alcohol too. Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for luxuries.
    Oh absolutely.

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    Re: $590M-plus Powerball: 1 winning ticket sold in Fla

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    So, it's their problem. Again, they don't receive any more money if they spend what they're given foolishly. I agree that it's a stupid purchase when you're collecting welfare, but it has no effect on the taxpayer.
    Yes, it does effect the taxpayer. If they have money to waste then they don't need government assistance, hence less taxes are needed.
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