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IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election [W:18, 57]

Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

First your posts lacked substance, now they are losing style. I am merely wondering if you can point to some ACTUAL evidence of Obama knowing about this prior to the 2012 election. You made the claim, I just want you to back it up with some FACTUAL evidence.

So Obama is a clueless moron who knows nothing about everything. Got it.
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

First your posts lacked substance, now they are losing style. I am merely wondering if you can point to some ACTUAL evidence of Obama knowing about this prior to the 2012 election. You made the claim, I just want you to back it up with some FACTUAL evidence.

His most senior officials were notified in June 2012

As the sole person occupying the executive branch of Government, if he wasn't notified of this what does that say about his competence? I'm buying into your premise. You don't have any evidence that he wasn't notified for one. You're assuming and giving him the benefit of the doubt. Secondly you're buying into the excuse that he knew nothing. He's just a clueless politician living in a bubble who has no idea what the people directly under his supervision are doing on his watch.

I can accept that until more evidence comes to light :lol:
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Nice try. But I'm not going to that level. Your position has been refuted. Thanks.

His most senior officials were notified in June 2012

As the sole person occupying the executive branch of Government, if he wasn't notified of this what does that say about his competence? I'm buying into your premise. You don't have any evidence that he wasn't notified for one. You're assuming and giving him the benefit of the doubt. Secondly you're buying into the excuse that he knew nothing. He's just a clueless politician living in a bubble who has no idea what the people directly under his supervision are doing on his watch.

I can accept that until more evidence comes to light :lol:
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Nice try. But I'm not going to that level. Your position has been refuted. Thanks.

You have refuted nothing

1) Why wouldn't Obama's WH council and senior officials notify him about what the IRS was doing?

2) Why did he dodge the question when he was asked when he was specifically notified?

It's not my problem your premise (if taken seriously) makes Obama look like an incompetent and clueless retard
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Your premise is that Obama knew about everything going on, but you have yet to prove that he knew any of it.

You have refuted nothing

1) Why wouldn't Obama's WH council and senior officials notify him about what the IRS was doing?

2) Why did he dodge the question when he was asked when he was specifically notified?

It's not my problem your premise (if taken seriously) makes Obama look like an incompetent and clueless retard
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Your premise is that Obama knew about everything going on, but you have yet to prove that he knew any of it.

Actually I'm operating on your premise

Why would Obama's most senior officials and WH Council NOT NOTIFY him about what the IRS was doing?

What would they be protecting him from?
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

All one can do here is make assumptions and we all know where that leads. Look, in the end, I could end up eating a lot of crow. But as of this moment, there is nothing tying the President directly to this.

Actually I'm operating on your premise

Why would Obama's most senior officials and WH Council NOT NOTIFY him about what the IRS was doing?

What would they be protecting him from?
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

All one can do here is make assumptions and we all know where that leads. Look, in the end, I could end up eating a lot of crow. But as of this moment, there is nothing tying the President directly to this.

So you don't know why Obama's WH council and senior officials WOULD NOT TELL HIM why the IRS was specifically targeting jews, religious institutions, pro life groups and Tea Party groups. You're just assuming they didn't tell him. Why assume they didn't tell him and not assume they did?

He's the President. Not some guy just chillin in the oval office and playing golf on the taxpayer dime. Why wouldn't he be informed of this? If he wasn't informed of this, what does that say about his competence? Certainly a more engaged executive would want to know if his IRS is acting like the Gestapo don't you think?
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

You will have to show me where the link is that ties Obama directly to the "coverup" of Benghazi.

ROTFLOL... Ask Bob Woodward... Bob knows Watergate.
And in other news, Bob Woodward compares Benghazi to Watergate
Daily Kos: And in other news, Bob Woodward compares Benghazi to Watergate
Revealing... to the Laftists... it's "other news".

The Washington Post's Bob Woodward cautioned against dismissing the investigation into last September's terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, offering vague comparisons to the famed Watergate scandal he was at the center of reporting.

Woodward dismissed the Benghazi issue as one that is just political, saying that the emails released by the White House on Wednesday show that administration officials were trying not to tell the full story.

Woodward held up an edited email from the White House and compared it to Watergate transcripts that were selectively edited by President Richard Nixon.

"I have to go back 40 years to Watergate when Nixon put out his edited transcripts of the conversations," Woodward said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" Friday. "And he personally went through them and said, 'Oh, let's not tell this, let's not show this.'

"I would not dismiss Benghazi. It's a very serious issue. ... You look at the hydraulic pressure that was in the system to not tell the truth."

Read more: Bob Woodward: Benghazi Not Watergate, Yet - Business Insider



Obama apparatchiks are testing new slogans... see teleprompteur... as well as The Buck Stops There... and The Buck Stops Near.
They sadly concluded after long studies that blaming Bush 43 won't work this time.
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Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

I think the main thing is when did Obama find out? Did he know before the election, or not? I understand why the IRS didn't confess, or why they wouldn't tell Obama. I don't know if he knew or not, but that's the real crux of the issue to me.
You've got to be kidding. They scrubbed the docs, they knew it was terror, and Obama claimed during the debates he used the word "terror" in the Rose Garden, and then started condemning "the video".

He's the President, Americans were under attack... he's not some mail clerk stuck in the basement.


No it doesn't. It makes Obama look positively Nixonian though.[/QUOTE]
Nobody died during Watergate... and then we have the bonus scandals.
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Except the emails pretty much discredit that conspiracy theory. Or is FoxNews still trying to push this "scandal"?

Ahhh.... no, but Watergate Bob sees this as Watergate with dead.

Why didn't those docs expose one word of the "video"? Odd don't you think?

We need to know all about how that developed from their deviant skulls. Why are they covering that up too?
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

. . .I often wonder what life is like for people who have their mind made up before all the facts are available.

They become life long Democrat voters, then they die and their heirs have to spend part of their public assistance check to have them buried in a cheap grave
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

You've got to be kidding. They scrubbed the docs, they knew it was terror, and Obama claimed during the debates he used the word "terror" in the Rose Garden, and then started condemning "the video".

He's the President, Americans were under attack... he's not some mail clerk stuck in the basement.



Nobody died during Watergate... and then we have the bonus scandals.

Nobody died because of the IRS either. You're getting confused. Unless what the thread was about was why the IRS didn't fess up to their involvment in Benghazi. Did the home forget to give you your meds again?
 
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Nobody died because of the IRS either. You're getting confused. Unless what the thread was about was why the IRS didn't fess up to their involvment in Benghazi.
Too many threads going about the Scandalous Obama Thugs... an honest error.
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Ahhh.... no, but Watergate Bob sees this as Watergate with dead.

Why didn't those docs expose one word of the "video"? Odd don't you think?

We need to know all about how that developed from their deviant skulls. Why are they covering that up too?

Let me reword that.....the emails pretty much discredit that conspiracy theory * except in the minds of the birther crowd and the completely wacko right-wing fringe.
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Let me reword that.....the emails pretty much discredit that conspiracy theory * except in the minds of the birther crowd and the completely wacko right-wing fringe.

No conspiracy... a coverup.

I didn't know Bob Woodward was "of the birther crowd and the completely wacko right-wing fringe."

You see... you learn something everyday!

You will have a lot of trips with that bucket... I know... I know... it's my bucket. Time will tell... won't it?
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Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Why can't you answer the question? As President is Obama not responsible for what happens under his direct supervision? Obama LIED directly to the faces of the grieving families and told them while they stood next to the coffins of their murdered loved ones they died because of a youtube video. He went on TV and gave a speech at the UN blaming Benghazi on a youtube video when he KNEW at the time what he was saying was a LIE.

Do you not care that your President lied to you and lied to the grieving families of the Benghazi victims?

Where was Obama and what was he doing as Americans fought for their lives against terrorists at 2 different locations over an 8 hour period. Where was Obama as his ambassador and 3 other Americans were being murdered by terrorists? Do you even care? Doesn't sound like it.

You are going to do better with you false outrage over 4 dead Americans. You didn't give a rat's ass about the thousands killed in Iraq and now you come here acting so indigent. What a hypocrite!
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

The reason the IRS is "owing up to it" now is just an intimidation factor against such organizations.
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Let's see...

Watergate... Zero dead Americans. Coverup of a third rate burglary to protect party.

Benghazi... Four dead Americans. Coverup of root cause of attack (terror) due to an election. (Remember... it was the video.)

Why do you think terrorism vs. not terrorism would change an election? What benefit do you think Obama would gain by this supposed coverup?
 
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Why do you think terrorism vs. not terrorism would change an election? What benefit do you think Obama would gain by this supposed coverup?

I don't think it was the "terrorism vs. not terrorism" thing that bothered Obama about the Benghazi blow-up. It was more the "competent vs. not competent" thing. Let's face it, if everything that's come out now had been revealed during the run up to the election, Obama would have looked like someone who didn't deserve to be President. The Republicans would have hammered him on it. Given the close margin of victory he enjoyed, Benghazi very well could have tipped the election to Romney's favor.

So, yes...it is obvious that Obama would have...and possibly did...gain by engaging in a coverup.
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election [W:18]

Still not seeing any facts. By trivializing what the President does, you do nothing but hurt your argument.

As President and Commander-in-Chief, he is responsible.
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election [W:18]

As President and Commander-in-Chief, he is responsible.

Conclusion, Obama must be impeached right?
As he is responsible for anything government spends money on, including the moles from previous Repub admins. How about an ET event at Wright-Patterson?
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

I don't think it was the "terrorism vs. not terrorism" thing that bothered Obama about the Benghazi blow-up. It was more the "competent vs. not competent" thing. Let's face it, if everything that's come out now had been revealed during the run up to the election, Obama would have looked like someone who didn't deserve to be President. The Republicans would have hammered him on it. Given the close margin of victory he enjoyed, Benghazi very well could have tipped the election to Romney's favor.

So, yes...it is obvious that Obama would have...and possibly did...gain by engaging in a coverup.

Which part do you perceive as incompetent? You're not talking about the rescue fantasy are you?
 
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