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IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election [W:18, 57]

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[h=2]"f this fact came out in September 2012, in the middle of a presidential election? The terrain would have looked very different."[/h]
The IRS commissioner "has known for at least a year that this was going on," said Myers, "and that this had happened. And did he share any of that information with the White House? But even more importantly, Congress is going to ask him, why did you mislead us for an entire year?

Report: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election | The Weekly Standard

Doh! I wonder why?

Ditto's for Benghazi.

Can we now call Obama and his cronies the definition of THE CULTURE OF CORRUPTION?

Yes... We... Can...

They make Nixon's coverup look like playtime with SpongeBob SquarePants.
 
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They make Nixon's coverup look like playtime with SpongeBob SquarePants.

Then you have a skewed view of history. I often wonder what life is like for people who have their mind made up before all the facts are available.
 
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Then you have a skewed view of history. I often wonder what life is like for people who have their mind made up before all the facts are available.

Let's see...

Watergate... Zero dead Americans. Coverup of a third rate burglary to protect party.

Benghazi... Four dead Americans. Coverup of root cause of attack (terror) due to an election. (Remember... it was the video.)
 
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Let's see...

Watergate... Zero dead Americans. Coverup of a third rate burglary to protect party.

Benghazi... Four dead Americans. Coverup of root cause of attack (terror) due to an election. (Remember... it was the video.)

You will have to show me where the link is that ties Obama directly to the "coverup" of Benghazi.
 
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You will have to show me where the link is that ties Obama directly to the "coverup" of Benghazi.

Obama is too slick to let any direct links exist.
 
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You will have to show me where the link is that ties Obama directly to the "coverup" of Benghazi.

Is Obama President or just some guy who chills in the oval office and plays golf/goes on vacation at taxpayer expense?
 
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Still not seeing any facts. By trivializing what the President does, you do nothing but hurt your argument.


Is Obama President or just some guy who chills in the oval office and plays golf/goes on vacation at taxpayer expense?
 
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Still not seeing any facts. By trivializing what the President does, you do nothing but hurt your argument.

Why can't you answer the question? As President is Obama not responsible for what happens under his direct supervision? Obama LIED directly to the faces of the grieving families and told them while they stood next to the coffins of their murdered loved ones they died because of a youtube video. He went on TV and gave a speech at the UN blaming Benghazi on a youtube video when he KNEW at the time what he was saying was a LIE.

Do you not care that your President lied to you and lied to the grieving families of the Benghazi victims?

Where was Obama and what was he doing as Americans fought for their lives against terrorists at 2 different locations over an 8 hour period. Where was Obama as his ambassador and 3 other Americans were being murdered by terrorists? Do you even care? Doesn't sound like it.
 
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There hasn't been any proof that Obama had any hand in changing the talking points. Can I imagine a scenario where the President doesn't know all the facts and is given talking points by those who do and they turn out to be incorrect? Yes. In the emails that were released on the development of talking points, can you show me where the White House said to cover up Benghazi?


Why can't you answer the question? As President is Obama not responsible for what happens under his direct supervision? Obama LIED directly to the faces of the grieving families and told them while they stood next to the coffins of their murdered loved ones they died because of a youtube video. He went on TV and gave a speech at the UN blaming Benghazi on a youtube video when he KNEW at the time what he was saying was a LIE.

Do you not care that your President lied to you and lied to the grieving families of the Benghazi victims?

Where was Obama and what was he doing as Americans fought for their lives against terrorists at 2 different locations over an 8 hour period. Where was Obama as his ambassador and 3 other Americans were being murdered by terrorists? Do you even care? Doesn't sound like it.
 
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There hasn't been any proof that Obama had any hand in changing the talking points. Can I imagine a scenario where the President doesn't know all the facts and is given talking points by those who do and they turn out to be incorrect? Yes. In the emails that were released on the development of talking points, can you show me where the White House said to cover up Benghazi?

So Obama is just some guy chillin in the oval office, flying around on Air Force One, playing golf, and vacationing on taxpayer dime. He's completely clueless. A vegetable who is just a sock puppet, controlled by dishonest hacks who trot him out in front of teleprompters to read words and sound Presidential. In reality he's either a total moron or drugged up in a stupor, oblivious to what people under his direct executive supervision are doing under his nose. Got it.

Answer a few simple questions: Where was Obama and what was he doing during the 8 hour Benghazi attack that happened at 2 separate locations? Where was Obama and what was he doing while Americans fought for their lives and were murdered by terrorists?
 
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You want an accurate timeline of what exactly he was doing during the 8 hours, ask someone who was with him. What would expect him to do? That's why he has departments to run these things. In a situation like this, running everything by the President does nothing but create a bottleneck. but continue to think he was sipping Mai Tais and hanging out in the Oval Office if it helps your narrative.

So Obama is just some guy chillin in the oval office, flying around on Air Force One, playing golf, and vacationing on taxpayer dime. He's completely clueless. A vegetable who is just a sock puppet, controlled by dishonest hacks who trot him out in front of teleprompters to read words and sound Presidential. In reality he's either a total moron or drugged up in a stupor, oblivious to what people under his direct executive supervision are doing under his nose. Got it.

Answer a few simple questions: Where was Obama and what was he doing during the 8 hour Benghazi attack that happened at 2 separate locations? Where was Obama and what was he doing while Americans fought for their lives and were murdered by terrorists?
 
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You want an accurate timeline of what exactly he was doing during the 8 hours, ask someone who was with him. What would expect him to do? That's why he has departments to run these things. In a situation like this, running everything by the President does nothing but create a bottleneck. but continue to think he was sipping Mai Tais and hanging out in the Oval Office if it helps your narrative.

Who said he was at the Taj Mhal sipping Mai Tai's? Strawman much?

You're not the least bit curious what he was doing? Americans are fighting for the lives against terrorists at 2 different locations, his diplomat has just been murdered and you're not the least bit curious where he was and what he was doing? Especially after now knowing he LIED to the American People and to the grieving families and told them this all happened because of a youtube video?

You're acting like it's plausible that a President only finds out about things and gets all his information from the news or something. It's hilarious.
 
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Doh! I wonder why?

Ditto's for Benghazi.

Can we now call Obama and his cronies the definition of THE CULTURE OF CORRUPTION?

I think the main thing is when did Obama find out? Did he know before the election, or not? I understand why the IRS didn't confess, or why they wouldn't tell Obama. I don't know if he knew or not, but that's the real crux of the issue to me.


They make Nixon's coverup look like playtime with SpongeBob SquarePants.

No it doesn't. It makes Obama look positively Nixonian though.
 
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Sure I do, but do I think he was doing something nefarious all the while? No.

The only strawman here is your constant reference to golfing and vacationing on the taxpayers dime.

Who said he was at the Taj Mhal sipping Mai Tai's? Strawman much?

You're not the least bit curious what he was doing? Americans are fighting for the lives against terrorists at 2 different locations, his diplomat has just been murdered and you're not the least bit curious where he was and what he was doing? Especially after now knowing he LIED to the American People and to the grieving families and told them this all happened because of a youtube video?

You're acting like it's plausible that a President only finds out about things and gets all his information from the news or something. It's hilarious.
 
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You will have to show me where the link is that ties Obama directly to the "coverup" of Benghazi.

good point. Still shouldn't preclude him from getting the Warren Harding treatment.
 
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Sure I do, but do I think he was doing something nefarious all the while? No.

The only strawman here is your constant reference to golfing and vacationing on the taxpayers dime.

It's pointless even engaging you. You have to constantly toss out these pathetic strawmen to even have a conversation. It's embarrassing.

I asked you what else Obama does as President, since you want everyone to believe he only learns information about what people are doing under his executive supervision from the evening news
 
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I don't think you know what the word strawman really means.

You asked if I wanted to know what the President was doing during Benghazi and I answered that.

It's pointless even engaging you. You have to constantly toss out these pathetic strawmen to even have a conversation. It's embarrassing.

I asked you what else Obama does as President, since you want everyone to believe he only learns information about what people are doing under his executive supervision from the evening news
 
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Moderator's Warning:
There are about a BAZILLION threads about Benghazi. Take those discussions there. I understand that "both are scandals so related" but this thread is in *breaking news* and has a very SPECIFIC topic. Stick to THAT topic or you'll be removed from it
 
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Let's see...

Watergate... Zero dead Americans. Coverup of a third rate burglary to protect party.

Benghazi... Four dead Americans. Coverup of root cause of attack (terror) due to an election. (Remember... it was the video.)

Except the emails pretty much discredit that conspiracy theory. Or is FoxNews still trying to push this "scandal"?
 
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I really think Harry Reid has some explaining to do now as well.

way too many people coming forward with info about the IRS actively trying to hurt conservative groups. Harry Reid used so called IRS tips to hurl accusations at Romney, clearly in an attempt to hurt him. where did he get his info?
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Moderator's Warning:
There are about a BAZILLION threads about Benghazi. Take those discussions there. I understand that "both are scandals so related" but this thread is in *breaking news* and has a very SPECIFIC topic. Stick to THAT topic or you'll be removed from it

oops, didn't see this. sorry.

i'm not sure what legal issues exist on not being up front about politically damaging investigations taking place.

It stinks real bad, but other then pointing out how stinky it was, I doubt anything can be done.
 
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I really think Harry Reid has some explaining to do now as well.

way too many people coming forward with info about the IRS actively trying to hurt conservative groups. Harry Reid used so called IRS tips to hurl accusations at Romney, clearly in an attempt to hurt him. where did he get his info?


It certainly adds new perspective to the many calls for Romney to release oodles and oodles of tax returns beyond what the law required and Obama had done. I suspect they knew there was something in them that they wanted to make political hay out of but they could not get him to bite and would have been busted cold had they attacked him on it without his releasing the returns. I suspect that is where the smear campaign about questionable offshore accounts in the blogosphere began.
 
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Sure I do, but do I think he was doing something nefarious all the while? No.

The only strawman here is your constant reference to golfing and vacationing on the taxpayers dime.

What do you mean by nefarious? Who said anything about "nefarious"? What is it with you and these pathetic strawmen?
 
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Again, not a strawman.

With respect to the moderator, back to the OP. Until the investigations are complete, it's just assuming. Right now there is no connection between Obama and the IRS scandal.

What do you mean by nefarious? Who said anything about "nefarious"? What is it with you and these pathetic strawmen?
 
Re: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Again, not a strawman.

With respect to the moderator, back to the OP. Until the investigations are complete, it's just assuming. Right now there is no connection between Obama and the IRS scandal.

There absolutely is a connection. The NYT just reported that Obama lied about when he knew the IRS was targeting these groups.
 
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