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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Why couldn't you answer the question? Shocking

    It kinda looked like your question was rhetorical since you seemed to already know the answer.


    So you folks on the left are saying "IF" the IRS or an IRS employee leaked confidential data on a presidential candidate that's ok? Really?
    No, I don't think they are saying that. Really.

    Now if you want say it didn't happen fine, let the source put up or shut up, but to say it doesn't matter?
    I don't recall anyone saying it doesn't matter. Do you have a source?


    So, I answered your questions, now how about answering mine?


    Are folks on the right trying to saying that the tea party isn't political?

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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

    To ignore McCarthy is to ignore the '50s.
    Don't blame you.

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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

    The tea party is of course political, but that does not mean a political group can't have an educational or non profit element. Doesn't the Sierra Club? I am pretty sure they do and they are quite political.

    All I was asking to the left minded here was "IF" the presidents fans / supporters in the IRS leaked information to his campaign would that not be a serious problem for you? I don't know that this happened and I have my doubts it did, but what I'm seeking is denial rather than acknowledgement that'd be wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It kinda looked like your question was rhetorical since you seemed to already know the answer.


    No, I don't think they are saying that. Really.

    I don't recall anyone saying it doesn't matter. Do you have a source?


    So, I answered your questions, now how about answering mine?


    Are folks on the right trying to saying that the tea party isn't political?

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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

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    What's McCarthy have to do with it?

    It was FDR that built the concentration camps.
    This level of confusion is hard to fathom, even when spoken by a tea partier.

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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    The tea party is of course political, but that does not mean a political group can't have an educational or non profit element. Doesn't the Sierra Club? I am pretty sure they do and they are quite political.

    All I was asking to the left minded here was "IF" the presidents fans / supporters in the IRS leaked information to his campaign would that not be a serious problem for you? I don't know that this happened and I have my doubts it did, but what I'm seeking is denial rather than acknowledgement that'd be wrong.
    What's particularly funny about this whole line of bogus tea party questioning is that the IRS didn't investigate ANY organization with "tea party" in its name. Rather, it investigated those with "patriot" in its name, on the premise that anybody so stupid as to put "patriot" in its name was probably promoting a political agenda.

    By the way, Issa and his clowns still hasn't answered the basic question: how many applications did the IRS get from rightwing groups after Citizens United versus how many applications did they get from progressive groups. I bet it isn't even close, since Koch and his weirdos went made giving money to shill organizations after CU. So of course the IRS was scrutinizing rightwing groups -- they were the bulk of the applications after the CU fiasco.

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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    The tea party is of course political, but that does not mean a political group can't have an educational or non profit element. Doesn't the Sierra Club? I am pretty sure they do and they are quite political.
    So how is the IRS supposed to investigate whether or not the thousands of tea party applications aren't political when the tea party itself is defined as "a political movement"? I'd really like to know.


    All I was asking to the left minded here was "IF" the presidents fans / supporters in the IRS leaked information to his campaign would that not be a serious problem for you? I don't know that this happened and I have my doubts it did, but what I'm seeking is denial rather than acknowledgement that'd be wrong.
    I don't know, isnt that what all the investigations and hearings are supposed to find out? So far all the republicans seem interested in is politicizing the hearings and attacking Obama instead of finding out the truth as to whether or not IRS agents singled out conservatives to deny them non tax status.

    I can only speak for myself and if some of the IRS agents did single out conservatives for discrimination, then they should be held accountable to the full extent of the law. But unless or until the Republcans put their own bias aside and stop politicizing the hearings then I doubt we will ever know the truth. But then maybe that is their intent so they can drag this out until the next election.

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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    What's particularly funny about this whole line of bogus tea party questioning is that the IRS didn't investigate ANY organization with "tea party" in its name. Rather, it investigated those with "patriot" in its name, on the premise that anybody so stupid as to put "patriot" in its name was probably promoting a political agenda.

    By the way, Issa and his clowns still hasn't answered the basic question: how many applications did the IRS get from rightwing groups after Citizens United versus how many applications did they get from progressive groups. I bet it isn't even close, since Koch and his weirdos went made giving money to shill organizations after CU. So of course the IRS was scrutinizing rightwing groups -- they were the bulk of the applications after the CU fiasco.
    I wouldn't mind seeing every single tea party and patriot member whose application was denied by the IRS to testify at a hearing before congress. That would give them a chance to air their grievences and fear about the Federal Government while at the time showing the Federal Government isn't as tyrannical as they claim.

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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

    The problem is the themes are tyranny are starting to shine thru.


    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I wouldn't mind seeing every single tea party and patriot member whose application was denied by the IRS to testify at a hearing before congress. That would give them a chance to air their grievences and fear about the Federal Government while at the time showing the Federal Government isn't as tyrannical as they claim.

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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    All things being equal....it looks about right.....


    Tea Party violence - About 39,800,000 results (0.23 seconds)

    Occupy Wall Street violence - About 24,700,000 results (0.19 seconds)
    so even changing the search still shows that tea party violence pulls up more results,even though recorded tea party violence is non existent yet ows violence occured on epic proportions due to its unorganized to non existent leadership.

    still proves a quite valid point,google search results in no way determine if anything is true or not,since the one with overwhelming evidence against it got less results than the one that had little to no actual anything other than blind accusations against it.
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    Re: Claim: Obama campaign co-chair attacked romney with leaked irs docs

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    so even changing the search still shows that tea party violence pulls up more results,even though recorded tea party violence is non existent yet ows violence occured on epic proportions due to its unorganized to non existent leadership.

    still proves a quite valid point,google search results in no way determine if anything is true or not,since the one with overwhelming evidence against it got less results than the one that had little to no actual anything other than blind accusations against it.

    Okay, sure, why not? It's not like its a scientific or academic study now is it? It was more just for fun. lol

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