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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Thankfully, that will never happen in this country.
    Well, aren't you a grumpy guy today.
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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    When you become unconscience maybe someone will give you a shot or somthing (or of something). I have long said I appreciate your honesty.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I didn't say this system worked. I am one of those few who says "if you can't pay for it, and/or you can't find help privately, and/or you don't have insurance through your employer..... TOO BAD, SO SAD, SO SORRY. BYE BYE."

    To that end, after age 65, I will not likely have any healthcare services. Once I retire, I'll likely be dead in 2-3 years because of it.
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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    A well working society can't have 20% of its population unable to afford healthcare
    Therefore, legislation that increases health premiums 100%... is a good thing?

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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well, aren't you a grumpy guy today.
    24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    When you become unconscience maybe someone will give you a shot or somthing (or of something). I have long said I appreciate your honesty.
    That's why I keep my Living Will and DNR as up-to-date as possible and provide them to as many of the local hospitals and medical facilities as possible.... So that sort of thing doesn't happen.

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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This would be agreeable if there weren't a myriad of other taxes 47% of the population pays. Even a family living on $15K a year isn't immune to taxation.
    Well, as best as I can tell, the 53% of the working public who are paying federal income taxes are also paying those myriads of other taxes.

    Not really sure where you're finding the equivalence.

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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Therefore, legislation that increases health premiums 100%... is a good thing?
    The legislation isn't increasing prices. Business is. It's a typical bully response from big business.
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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I didn't say this system worked. I am one of those few who says "if you can't pay for it, and/or you can't find help privately, and/or you don't have insurance through your employer..... TOO BAD, SO SAD, SO SORRY. BYE BYE."

    To that end, after age 65, I will not likely have any healthcare services. Once I retire, I'll likely be dead in 2-3 years because of it.
    Got a minute? I wanna tell you a story.
    There's a pit- in France, I think- that's a trove of Neanderthal bones. The presumption is they'd toss the bodies of their dead down into it; males, females, young, it's like a long-term mass grave. One of the skeletons was a grown man who'd suffered terrible injuries- one arm was amputated below the elbow, a wrecked hip, lower jaw screwed up, bad stuff. Thing is, all those injuries had healed well before he died. See what that means? The tribe or clan or whatever had nurtured this individual- fed him, helped him move with them, kept him safe and warm. They had no surplus, lived hand-to-mouth, but found a way to care for one of their own.
    Any reason why a wealthy modern society shouldn't care for it's sick and injured?

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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The insurance companies were just guaranteed near 100% consumerism through law with no oversight or public option. You best bet your bottom dollar that they're going to jack rates. This sort of price fixing is common in closed economic systems.
    I agree that a public option would have been the best safe gaurd, but they did put in place that a certain percentage of money taken in by insurance companies must go towards payments on medical care, I want to say 80 or 85%. So they can't jack up prices greatly without also increasing payouts.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, as best as I can tell, the 53% of the working public who are paying federal income taxes are also paying those myriads of other taxes.

    Not really sure where you're finding the equivalence.
    Ability to pay into social services should be factored into how much you pay. Not all things are equal.
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    Re: Insurers predict 100% to 400% Obamacare rate explosion

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Got a minute? I wanna tell you a story.
    There's a pit- in France, I think- that's a trove of Neanderthal bones. The presumption is they'd toss the bodies of their dead down into it; males, females, young, it's like a long-term mass grave. One of the skeletons was a grown man who'd suffered terrible injuries- one arm was amputated below the elbow, a wrecked hip, lower jaw screwed up, bad stuff. Thing is, all those injuries had healed well before he died. See what that means? The tribe or clan or whatever had nurtured this individual- fed him, helped him move with them, kept him safe and warm. They had no surplus, lived hand-to-mouth, but found a way to care for one of their own.
    Any reason why a wealthy modern society shouldn't care for it's sick and injured?
    Because that's what animals do.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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