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    Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......

    Has the Obama administration managed to get on the wrong side of both iconic Washington Post reporters who brought down the Nixon White House in the 1970's? It seems so. Bob Woodward: Check. Reliable liberal Carl Bernstein? Check:

    "It's outrageous. It's totally inexcusable...the object of it is to intimidate people who talk to reporters. There's no excuse for it whatsoever."

    Host Joe Scarborough notes that this administration -- the most transparent of all time, in their own mythology -- has prosecuted double the number of leaks as all previous White Houses combined. Bernstein calls this a coordinated attempt to cow people into silence and freeze out a robust free press, using national security concerns as a catch-all justification. Again, Jay Carney insists the president didn't know about the DOJ/AP story until last night, and Obama himself told the American people that he only learned of the IRS abuses through news reports on Friday -- even though those practices were in place for years and the White House was notified weeks ago. Are these remotely credible claims? This rapidly-deteriorating season of scandal has also alienated a typically loyal Obama media ally in Andrea Mitchell, who says the IRS and DOJ revelations are some of "the most outrageous excesses" she's seen over her decades-long career:

    National Journal's Ron Fournier, who's been a beacon of clarity on these stories from the get-go, intones that unless things turn around quickly, the IRS revelation in particular threatens to consume the remainder of Obama's presidency. I'll leave you with a quote from an anonymous Democrat strategist, who is severely alarmed by the swirling mess the administration has created for itself:

    They have a small window- I'd say 2-5 days- to try and turn this around and hold on to a plausible veneer of not being a group of shadowy thugs. But given how tone def they've been in the past, my money is on this being the lens through which their next 3.5 years are viewed.....snip~

    Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event" - Guy Benson

    Did any on the Left still want to talk about how this Scandal doesn't mean anything? Bernstein is out slammin Obama Now. Did Team Obama Bite off more than they can chew? The IRS issue could consume the rest of his term. Now this issue over the AP is majorly serious.

    Tapping the Phones In the House of Representative.....is a major no-no. Already 3 days and it doesn't look like Team Obama is being able to deflect this one. Won't be able to hide in a swirling mass of Confusion of Different rhetoric anymore. Even Andrea Mitchell an ObamaBot is appalled. What is the reality of the situation for Obama on the ground?

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    Re: Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......

    I am very interested to see how this AP thing unfolds. According to the DOJ's own binding regulations:

    "no subpoena may be issued . . . for the telephone toll records of any member of the news media without the express authorization of the Attorney General"
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-201...2-sec50-10.pdf

    So why did AG Holder authorize this? And if he didn't authorize it, whose heads will roll for violating DOJ regulations?

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    Re: Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......



    Here is Bernstein Remarks.....and yes He is saying this is Nuclear for the Obama Administration. It was a disaster waiting to happen.

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    Re: Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......

    If sources and reporters never know whether either side is being bugged by the government there be a lot less communication between the two groups, then that is a Machiavellian way to stop leaks from the administration.

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    Re: Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......

    Obama better get his ass in gear on this, or he'll be remember as the anti-1st and 2nd Amendment president. Frankly I'm tired of the man's arrogance. He seems to really believe that messiah crap. "I won the election, do as I say", gun control, Obamacare, increased taxes.......this guy is becoming a jerk who thinks we work for him. He appears to think his social justice agenda is more important than the country. So if you disagree, he'll try to shut you up. The MSM should pummel his ass, but they won't.
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    Re: Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Obama better get his ass in gear on this, or he'll be remember as the anti-1st and 2nd Amendment president. Frankly I'm tired of the man's arrogance. He seems to really believe that messiah crap. "I won the election, do as I say", gun control, Obamacare, increased taxes.......this guy is becoming a jerk who thinks we work for him. He appears to think his social justice agenda is more important than the country. So if you disagree, he'll try to shut you up. The MSM should pummel his ass, but they won't.
    That isn't how he is coming across to me with all these scandals that have been popping up. To me he comes across as a POTUS who is asleep at the wheel while his underlings (albeit very senior ones) are up to negligent and unlawful activities. We know Obama will have been sufficiently insulated from all this malfeasance to protect himself. The least he can do is clean house, beginning with getting a new AG.

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    Re: Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    I am very interested to see how this AP thing unfolds. According to the DOJ's own binding regulations:

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-201...2-sec50-10.pdf

    So why did AG Holder authorize this? And if he didn't authorize it, whose heads will roll for violating DOJ regulations?
    This what Huff-Po had on it......they didn't say what they seized either. But over 20 Phone Lines worth. That Press gallery in the House is the Big Deal.....How does Obama stop that coming back to him. If the Leaks are out of the White House. Why would they need to tap the House's Phones for the AP?

    The AP reported that the DOJ obtained lists of "incoming and outgoing calls, and the duration of each call, for the work and personal phone numbers of individual reporters, general AP office numbers in New York, Washington and Hartford, Conn., and the main number for AP reporters in the House of Representatives press gallery." The Justice Department seized records for more than 20 telephone lines from April and May 2012.

    Though DOJ did not give the AP a specific reason for the seizure, the dates of the phone calls it targeted offered a clear tell. On May 7, 2012, AP reporters Adam Goldman and Matt Apuzzo, citing anonymous sources, reported that the CIA had thwarted a plot by an al-Qaeda affiliate to "destroy a U.S.-bound airliner using a bomb with a sophisticated new design around the one-year anniversary of the killing of Osama bin Laden."

    The media's purpose is to keep the public informed and it should be free to do so without the threat of unwarranted surveillance," Laura W. Murphy, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Washington Legislative Office, said in a statement. "The Attorney General must explain the Justice Department's actions to the public so that we can make sure this kind of press intimidation does not happen again."

    Monday's report only fanned the flames, with Democrats and Republicans alike criticizing the Department of Justice. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) said he was "very troubled by these allegations" and wanted to hear the government’s explanation. House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said that Holder needed to be "held accountable for what I think is wrong" if, indeed, the authorization for the subpoena reached his desk.

    The AP on Monday revealed that the DOJ obtained phone numbers from five reporters and an editor involved in the May 7, 2012 story: Apuzzo, Goldman, Kimberly Dozier, Eileen Sullivan, Alan Fram and Ted Bridis. Apuzzo worked in the AP's Hartford office several years ago and Goldman previously worked out of New York, two of the cities targeted by the Justice Department in addition to Washington, where the reporters are currently based. Apuzzo and Goldman were part of the AP's Pulitzer Prize-winning team that uncovered the NYPD's secret Muslim spying program and are highly regarded investigative journalists.

    "From what we know, this collection was in clear violation of the law," said Nate Cardozo of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a non-profit organization that seeks to protect individual rights in the digital world. "The DOJ's regulations prohibit subpoenas of this breadth and require that notice be given to the affected people within 90 days at the absolute outside."

    Several prominent journalists have expressed concerns over the Obama administration's aggressive means of investigating unsanctioned leaks to reporters.

    Jonathan Landay, a national security reporter with McClatchy newspapers, told HuffPost last month that "people who normally would meet with me, sort of in a more relaxed atmosphere, are on pins and needles" because of the crackdown on leakers. The New Yorker's Jane Mayer said at the time that "part of the problem" with regards to the government's ongoing leaks crackdown "stems from the technology revolution.".....snip~

    AP Phone Records Seized By Justice Department As War On Leaks Continues

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    Re: Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    I am very interested to see how this AP thing unfolds. According to the DOJ's own binding regulations:

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-201...2-sec50-10.pdf

    So why did AG Holder authorize this? And if he didn't authorize it, whose heads will roll for violating DOJ regulations?
    What a missed opportunity for Obama. With that regulation on the books, Obama could have easily justified asking Holder to resign within 24 hours of this being released. He would have looked Presidential doing so too.

    Ofcourse that would require putting leadership above politics, something this crew severely lacks.

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    Re: Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    That isn't how he is coming across to me with all these scandals that have been popping up. To me he comes across as a POTUS who is asleep at the wheel while his underlings (albeit very senior ones) are up to negligent and unlawful activities. We know Obama will have been sufficiently insulated from all this malfeasance to protect himself. The least he can do is clean house, beginning with getting a new AG.
    The people you hire and the actions they do are your responsibility because you have authority over them and their actions. The buck is supposed to stop at the President....it was set up that way.

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    Re: Watergate Reporter: DOJ Phone Records Scandal a "Nuclear Event"......

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Obama better get his ass in gear on this, or he'll be remember as the anti-1st and 2nd Amendment president. Frankly I'm tired of the man's arrogance. He seems to really believe that messiah crap. "I won the election, do as I say", gun control, Obamacare, increased taxes.......this guy is becoming a jerk who thinks we work for him. He appears to think his social justice agenda is more important than the country. So if you disagree, he'll try to shut you up. The MSM should pummel his ass, but they won't.
    Anti -1st, 2nd, 4th, 8th, 9th, 10th, give him time, he'll fill in the blanks...

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